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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    It's disappointing to see this kind of stuff still happening. Adults do not act this way. Do better, Linus.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, they do... I see it every day on the street while driving home.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I don't think car commuters necessarily make for a good example of adult behavior - in fact, the opposite tends to be true.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    No, I meant other drivers. I'm not a nervous (cussing) driver, but most I've seen are. You should hear the stuff that comes out of these people's mouths, my god! I had no idea grown ups could act that way.

    Once this guy bumped me from the back, I got out, no real damage, just a scratch, plus I don't really care, a car is a means to an end for me, takes me from point A to point B. So, I didn't even offer to exchange insurance info (it was his fault, so in the end, he doesn't get compensated at all). But this guy... he started cursing at his luck, and then just raised his voice at me and asked "you couldn't stop 20cm down, could you 😒"... and I just gave him a confused look and got in my car. I mean, really? Over a fender bender? It wasn't even a real scratch, it was just paint transfer.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    It seems that we are in agreement, no? That a lot of car commuters behave like children?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

    Oh, I missed the car part in car commuters 😁, sorry 👍.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Mistakes in the Linux kernel can cause damages that are measured in millions and even get people killed.

    If you can't be bothered to focus on your work and get criticism when you fuck up, work on something else.

    Linus' message here isn't personal, his criticism is limited to the product created by the person. Something that any mentally healthy adult should have no problem with.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    There's no need to yell at someone to convey what's wrong with their code.

    None whatsoever, in fact.

    [–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Sir, email is text based communication, no yelling was involved.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    ARE YOU SURE YOUR DISPLAY AND THE VOICE IN YOUR HEAD IS NOT LOUDER WHEN READING THIS?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

    Shouting near someone may cause damage to the hears. Don't do that. Capital letters let me understand you are emotional, but cause no earing loss.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

    Stop yellliiiinggguuuh!

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    You write "thanks for being so diligent, Linus, and forcefully correcting people when it's required" oddly. Typo?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

    Did you know that you can be diligent without yelling at people?

    Linus has full control over what code makes it into the kernel, yelling is not required to accomplish that.

    [–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, adults act this way.

    On the other hand, adults do not act as if the world revolved around their precious-oh-so-precious feelings, or as fragile little pieces of junk that break apart unless handled very, veeeery carefully.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    If my boss ever spoke to me like that about a mistake, I would straight up quit. Either be respectful or get fucked, that goes doubly so for a non-profit relying on the good will of contributors.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    I think Linux has grown beyond the good will from contributors. I got the sense most folks do this as part of their job.

    So it's not your boss. It's someone who you have to make happy to do your job. And your boss can't help. Quitting won't help. Not if you want to work on the kernel.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

    In that case, the high stakes world of kernel management is probably not for you.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

    Please leave and give me the job instead. It's the fucking Linux kernel we're talking about; mistakes can mean many, MANY bad things happening to production environments

    [–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Your boss would probably do worse, and fire you instead. Now it isn't just your fee fees being violated, it's your living wage disappearing.

    As such, this comparison isn't really useful.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Only a shit boss would fire someone for making mistakes instead of correcting them.

    Also drop the whole pretentious right whinger act, you’re not a tough guy online.

    [–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago

    Only a shit boss would fire someone for making mistakes instead of correcting them.

    Most bosses are shitty.

    Also drop the whole pretentious right whinger act, you’re not a tough guy online.

    I'm not a right winger, nor acting as one. Stop making shit up / assuming shit about other users as a diversion tactic, and stick to the discussion.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    This comment is giving me a lot of 'rightwinger calling others snowflakes'-vibes.

    Did you know that yelling is not a particularly effective technique pedagogically?