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Do elaborate on how sending troops half way across the world to occupy a country illegally is looking after his own people. Can't wait for you to make it make sense.
What gives you the idea that the base in Jordan is to occupy? Jordan is a sovereign country and an allie so what do you mean?
One little problem here is that Jordan states that the base is not in Jordan but in Syria where US is currently occupying a larger percentage of territory than Russia is in Ukraine
https://english.news.cn/20240129/36e8ff659d624869b1473c4a80a35b86/c.html
These are two different bases. It is a contradiction in terms to say near the syrian border and in syria at the same time.
Tower 22 which got attacked is in Jordan and potentially a supply post for the al-Tanf base in southeastern Syria.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-is-tower-22-site-attack-us-troops-jordan-2024-01-28/
Again, Jordan is denying there were any attacks on its territory.
Dude, what is your point?
It's pretty obvious that my point is that either US or Jordan is lying here, and given that US occupation of Syria is illegal under international law, it's likely that US is lying about where their troops died. Hope that clears things up for you dude.
This seems like what about-ism to the original topic. Regardless, this is a U.S. base that was established during the war on terror.
"U.S. troops returned to Iraq in 2014 after entirely withdrawing in 2011. They returned at the invitation of the Iraqi government, which was struggling to fend off a devastating Islamic State takeover of one-third of the country. The following year, the U.S. deployed troops to Syria to help the nascent SDF defeat the same group." [1]
Although the base was still actively being used by U.S. forces, we were working on removing U.S. troops.
"Another report on Wednesday by Reuters revealed that the U.S. and Iraq will begin talks on ending the American-led coalition troop presence in that country, conveying the message in a letter to Iraq’s foreign minister. The report noted these talks will likely last several months, with a potential U.S. withdrawal far from imminent." [2]. Look at [3] for Reuters article.
Outside of what Biden wanted to do, congress has already implied that they wanted those troops to stay there [4]. Even if Biden ignored the fact that a law requiring this much was struck down by congress (I don't know if he even could), he would be destroying his reputation with law makers and could be risking his public reputation.
The main purpose of the base was to combat Islamic extremists who were operating outside of Syria. We can debate if the war on terror was a good idea, however it was already previous U.S. doctrine. The big thing to remember, is that there was an ongoing effort to remove the base.
You can shit talk the people who put that base there, but I don't think it's fair to say "Biden is not looking after his own people" just because he didn't create some lunatic order to withdraw on short notice like what trump repeatedly did during his presidency.
[1] - https://www.forbes.com/sites/pauliddon/2024/01/25/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-us-troop-deployments-in-syria-and-iraq/?sh=47cfe13e4a6c
[2] - https://apnews.com/article/congress-syria-troop-withdrawal-matt-gaetz-609353065981287eac3060c7eb6d9f09
[3] - https://www.reuters.com/world/us-iraq-initiate-talks-end-us-led-military-coalition-2024-01-24/#:~:text=BAGHDAD%2C%20Jan%2024%20(Reuters),stalled%20by%20the%20Gaza%20war.
[4] - https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2023-03-08/house-votes-down-bill-directing-removal-of-troops-from-syria
War on terror was US adventurism that has no basis in the international law. UN never authorized this. US just likes to play world police. Really that simple. Meanwhile, Islamic terrorism is the direct product of US overthrowing secular and socialist governments around Middle East using groups like Mujahideen that have now evolved into IS and the Taliban.
US is a scourge upon humanity, and the sooner it gets pushed out of the Middle East the better things will be for the people living there.