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First hydrogen locomotive started working in Poland.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (35 children)

They already do, they just have a diesel generator to make the electricity

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Guessing that replacing that with a large battery that charges at night is unreasonable due to the torque needed? You'd probably need a battery larger than a train engine to be able to even do a few stops and starts. Which is why electric trains are wired all the time.

If someone knows for sure I'm super curious!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Is this whole thread a joke or have you people not heard of electrified rail

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I mentioned it in my comment that you're replying to. "wired" could easily refer to above or below, just continuous current is what matters for this discussion. Why do ask?

Edit: Wait did you think we can electrify all rails? Outside of major cities it's a maintenance and safety nightmare, and a LOT of our freight moves via rail.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Global warming is a major maintenance and safety nightmare outside and inside major cities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are trains available that will run on overhead lines where available, and diesel when they're not. There's also passenger trains that have batteries as well.

It's doable, especially considering how efficient trains are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's kinda the default actually. Locomotives might lack pantographs if they never see electrified track but diesel locomotives aren't direct drive but diesel-electric. I'm not that deep into the topic but from what I've heard a mechanical transmission would be a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Modern trains are almost exclusively electric final drive, off the top of my head I can't think of any exceptions. There are so many different voltages of overhead pantographs and drive motors though, there is almost always some type of converter needed to provide the right voltage to the drive motors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overhead wires aren't 3-phase, so convertor is required anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of locomotion uses DC motors, so they can run line voltage directly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what operational voltage of such motor?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1.5KV DC is reasonably common for commuter rail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

1.5KV doesn't sound like operating voltage of DC motor. Maybe you wanted to say BLDC instead?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait did you think we can electrify all rails?

You can electrify your rail because that's what we did.

Outside of major cities it's a maintenance and safety nightmare

No. Also outside of city cost of electrification is much cheaper.

and a LOT of our freight moves via rail.

Same for me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure where you're from but if you pretend it's Switzerland then this comment is for you https://reddit.com/r/trains/s/UE3DSOPUdf

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not Switzerland, Russia

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