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Hyprland is a toxic community (drewdevault.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hyprland is an open source Wayland compositor based on wlroots, a project I started back in 2017 to make it easier to build good Wayland compositors. It’s a project which is loved by its users for its emphasis on customization and “eye candy” – beautiful graphics and animations, each configuration tailored to the unique look and feel imagined by the user who creates it. It’s a very exciting project!

Unfortunately, the effect is spoilt by an incredibly toxic and hateful community. I cannot recommend Hyprland to anyone who is not prepared to steer well clear of its community spaces. Imagine a high school boys' locker room come to life on Discord and GitHub and you’ll get an idea of what it’s like.

I empathise with Vaxry. I remember being young, smart, productive… and mean. I did some cool stuff, but I deeply regret the way I treated people. It wasn’t really my fault – I was a product of my environment – but it was my responsibility. Today, I’m proud to have built many welcoming communities, where people are rewarded for their involvement, rather than coming away from their experience hurt. What motivates us to build and give away free software if not bringing joy to ourselves and others? Can we be proud of a community which brings more suffering into the world?

Update: Response from Vaxry, Hyprland Developer

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How so?

Simply by how they reacted to the CoC suggestion on the Github page.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair, as a dev, I wouldn't want to bother with that either, and much rather hand that stuff over to a moderator or a community manager. Then again, I'd also wouldn't run a discord or a forum for those exact same reasons.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Dito. I would want to deal with technical problems, not social ones. If people start to fight over social norms in my technical community, I would advise them to take that elsewhere. (Of course same if people behave like assholes.)

Then again I wouldn't create a fucking discord "server" for a technical topic in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I said, the problem isn't that they are against CoC. The problem is how they reacted to the post. Alone the last "Nice on" as an reaction to your typical idiotic "BuT WhAT If I WaNT tO Be A ToXIC CoMmUniTy" rebuttal, tells me enough about their mental maturity. So yes from that and the other responses, I call the dev an Idiot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not sure if I follow. Someone made or quoted a childish argument, and they chose to not engage. What's wrong with that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I got a lot wrong initially reading that blog post (updated my comment accordingly). Though, I can sympathize with what he's saying in that screenshot specifically. If I did maintain a popular open source project I'd rather completdly remove the social aspect than try and manage it.