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We know that women students and staff remain underrepresented in Higher Education STEM disciplines. Even in subjects where equivalent numbers of men and women participate, however, many women are still disadvantaged by everyday sexism. Our recent research found that women who study STEM subjects at undergraduate level in England were up to twice as likely as non-STEM students to have experienced sexism. The main perpetrators of this sexism were not university staff, however, but were men STEM degree students.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Did you read what I wrote or just immediately respond the second I said 'non binary'? Also the fact you're making this statement also indicates you didn't read the source material at all.

I said, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that they classified non binary people as women.

Your clear lack of reading comprehension is absolutely not my fault.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

I said, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that they classified non binary people as women.

Except no, they didn't. I know this because we are having this conversation. They are grouped together in this statistic, but they make it very clear that they did that, and what % of the block were non-binary.

There's nothing wrong with what they did. Nobody is trying to trick anyone, they are very transparent about including non-binary people (people who also experience discrimination).

I know you want so bad to be a victim, but men don't experience sexual discrimination in STEM. Anyone in a STEM career can tell you that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

Ah, so you don't actually care about the research, the statistics or the facts, you would prefer to try and turn this into a discussion about personal problems than facts.

I've no interest given you are likely not in a STEM education or profession and given your notes here, likely wouldn't make it far even if you tried.

Objective interest and observation is vastly more important than the individual, and instead of approaching it from a statistical and facts based approach you're attempting to twist what I've said into some kind of rhetorical attack on women.

I guess it would make you feel better to believe I'm a man that hates women, but, tragically for you, I have XX chromosomes so your incompetent attempt to present me as the problem in this scenario falls short, especially considering I have been in STEM for the past 20 years both as a student and now a professional academic.

Your personal problems with the materials are ultimately immaterial when compared to the concerns I laid out.

I assume next you'll start going "the jews are keeping women down"? Or maybe "the patriarchy is the problem, lets ignore the fact women on average choose caring professions over STEM professions".

At no point did I say the abuse and discrimination wasn't there, I specifically noted that more research is required to figure out "why" it is there, and not pretend like it's just "white men keeping women down".

I understand nuance can be hard, but if you read enough books you'll get it eventually, I promise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody asked about your chromosomes. Nobody cares. That shouldn't matter if what you're saying has value. That's kinda the whole point of discussing sexism. For someone talking about rationality you're acting like you're allergic to hearing other people's points. You instantly resort to ad hominem attacks, put words in other people's mouths and spew the most toxic shit. It's pretty sad that this garbage gets upvotes on this Lemmy. Get off your porn account and get some sleep.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Way to miss the point and prove an ample example of incompetence.

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