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Cloudflare Employee records her final meeting where HR tries to fire her (ody.sh)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you've ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Her recording it was maybe a little unprofessional but they should've just said "hey we're getting rid of a bunch of people and your number came up, sorry." but I guess then they'd have to pay out. It's pretty shitty to blame the employees performance, most people would just roll over when told they weren't measuring up.

But I can see someone finding this video later and not wanting to hire her because of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Record everything. Business isn’t professional by any means. Why do you think some backward states make recording illegal…?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Edit: Disregard below, she lives in SC. Single party consent.

Since CloudFlare is SF based, I'm assuming she lives in California, which has two-party consent for digital communications, which makes recording that call illegal. By sharing this online, I believe she could face the following:

Criminal Penalties: Under the California Penal Code 632, illegal recording of confidential communications is a "wobbler" offense, meaning it can be charged as either a misdemeanor or a felony, based on the specifics of the case and the discretion of the prosecutor. If charged as a misdemeanor, the maximum penalties include imprisonment in the county jail for up to one year or a fine of up to $2,500. If charged as a felony, it's punishable by 2–3 years in prison and a fine of up to $2,500. For repeat offenders, the fine can increase to $10,000.

Civil Liabilities: In addition to criminal penalties, the violator may also face civil liabilities. The California Invasion of Privacy Act (CIPA) grants a private right of action to any victim of a violation, with steep damages. Damages under the CIPA can be substantial, with treble damages available and a minimum damage award of $5,000 per violation. This means that the person or persons whose conversation was recorded without consent can sue for damages.

Public Posting Aggravation: Posting the recording online could potentially aggravate the situation. This action could lead to additional charges related to the unauthorized distribution of the recorded content, especially if it involves sensitive or private information.

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