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Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit (arstechnica.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a good question that I don't have an answer to as I have no legal training. I'm assuming if you can sign a contract online where the legal text is behind a link and the main offer is what you see... maybe? Technically, it wouldn't be too difficult to simply erase any mention of a license in a pre-cleaning phase of the data, but I don't know if the act itself would be an even bigger indication of guilt. There would be no excuse like "oops, I just copied this data into my training set, teehee". But as I said, not a legal expert.

If there are copyright experts that want to weigh in, I'd be interested to hear their opinion. Given that there are running, unanswered cases (most notably again Microsoft's Copilot), and Japan on the verge of drafting into law that AI training data can ignore copyright, it's possible even legal experts would have a hard time answer the question.

I'm putting them here just in case. Only costs me a line carriage and a Ctrl+V.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If there are copyright experts that want to weigh in, I’d be interested to hear their opinion.

Myself as well. It's a new frontier, legally.

I’m putting them here just in case. Only costs me a line carriage and a Ctrl+V.

Seeing that you have done that made me start to think about doing it myself, as I definitely feel there are days when I'm being shadowed by AI training mechanisms.

But if it doesn't make any difference legally as a deterrent, then I wouldn't bother.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if it's ruled illegal in the US, there's nothing stopping AI companies from moving their operations to Japan where copyright doesn't apply to training data.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

It will definitely be interesting to see how all of the shakes out, legally wise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

But if it doesn’t make any difference legally as a deterrent, then I wouldn’t bother.

Once that's determined, then yeah, I won't bother either. Until then though... CC BY-NC-SA 4.0