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Went looking for this list. Partial results:
The NACP's register of international sponsors of war includes Philip Morris International, Alibaba Group Holding, Bacardi, Unilever, Mondelez International, Xiaomi Corporation, P&G, METRO, Auchan, and other brands.
@Cloudless & I maintain a zine tracking all Sponsors of Russia's invasion at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion . We use multiple sources viz. Ukraine govt sites, Yale's tracker, and credible news sources.
We also have a zine tracking business who have rejected to support Russia's invasion and have exited Russia at https://kbin.social/m/BizAgainstRussianInvasion
Thank you kindly. Just subbed to both 😁🍻
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Bacardi? It would be off-brand for them to not back dictatorships.
Doesn't stop Ukraine from buying drones built by Xiaomi and sold/distributed by Alibaba.
I don't see why it would. It's not like they're in a position to not buy from wherever they can.
Hardly makes Alibaba and Xiaomi sponsors of war 🤷♀️
It doesn't affect it one way or the other. What does is their continuing operations in Russia, who started and is continuing the war.
So...? How does that affect the sale of consumer electronics?
Because China (and Mexico, India, Southeast Asia, South America, Africa, and the Middle East) have not really introduced sanctions (except against military equipment)? These companies are following their government's policy, which is more than can be said for companies like PepsiCo and Mars (both American).
International trade is dictated by countries, not by companies. If a company is breaking the policy of the country it operates from, that's obviously very bad. These companies aren't trying to pick sides: their government hasn't picked a side and so there is no reason for the company to.
The sponsors of war list is a list of companies circumventing everyone else's efforts to place a defacto embargo on Russia to show that their actions have consequences. When companies cross that picket line, they undermine the entire exercise, making it easier for Russia to continue operations. The idea, for the rest of us, is to in turn boycott the companies on the list so they'll also experience their actions have consequences.
We have that luxury right now. Ukraine does not. So the idea is that we can help Ukraine by not doing business with companies that are making extra special bonus money by selling their products with a defacto monopoly in Russia right now
Who's efforts? From what I can see, only North America and Europe have joined in this so-called international embargo. In fact, not even Mexico has any sanctions against Russia.
What's the motivation for including companies based in countries that haven't called for trade restrictions?
Sure, I agree fully that countries based in Europe or North America should follow government policy or relocate, but I'm not expecting companies to behave outside of the policy detailed by their government.
If you buy a drone for lets say 1000$ from Xiaomi via AliBaba, 100$ of those go to AliBaba maybe 1$ goes to Russia. from the 900$ left for Xiaomi, 600 are gone for the production. 300 left, 3 go to Russia. 4$ for Russia. But if this drone helps invalidate only one russian soldier, that 4$ are easily worth 100000$. If it helps invalidate a tank, it goes to the millions. Thats easily worth it if there is no alternative
I have also seen people say "I buy from Amazon, because I don't want to support Alibaba"... like dude where do you think "VURUU" brand you just bought from sources all their shit from?
You mean VRCUUC isn’t a homegrown American brand?
What about Pooplunch?
what about ZHKUBDL?
Where the fuck is the money going to Russia from?