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What idiot thinks anyone wants "stuff for free." What the fuck do you think taxes are? We aren't expecting people to shit houses out of their asses. We're expecting our government WHICH WE PAY to provide us with basic dignity
Did you not read the comic?
Also, I'm not sure why you think the government owes every citizen a house.
I'm not arguing against social safety nets, but straight up paying for housing for every citizen is how you end up with everyone living in shoebox apartments.
I'm sure that you haven't even considered the numbers at all on this. If you think the current taxes will pay for it, you're mistaken.
Even if we took the entire military budget, that would be less than $2,500 per citizen per year.
There's a huge gulf between what this comic says (essentially housing, a basic human necessity) should be free, and what you're attacking (everything is free). One of those is ABSOLUTELY doable. We live in a world of gross excess, if we stop arguing over how to kill people more efficiently, stop worrying about printing more money, we could give people a small home. Of course someone still has to pay/work for it, no one's stupid lol.
Even if it's a "shoebox apartment" it's better than streets. It's one of the basic requirements for life. And who's to say that provided home has to be your only option?
Honestly, even if we replaced current employment with a 10-year indentured servitude contract with a guaranteed 1000 sq. ft. home and free utilities and maintenance for the rest of your life, that'd still be better than what we have now in a lot of ways.
People only like the system we're in because it provides the illusion of choice, not actual choices.
"it took me three seconds to come up with a BAD implementation, which not a single person in this thread asked for, which doesn't work! Therefore ALL implementations are bad! Ha!"
Really makes you THINK.
So far the people advocating for communism ITT are not even sly about shifting goalposts with the wind.
Specifically OP, OP responded to a comment about free housing being unrealistic with "single income families should be allowed to exist" followed by something else that wasn't relevant to free housing being unrealistic.
At this point I just think they're big communism shills. (I shouldn't have to say this is a joke, but I know that I do.)
They're just children who expect everything to be hand fed to them by the government and have no sense of nuance. They look at the utopia that communism promises without realizing that humans are selfish and greedy animals, so it'll never work.
These people are a good example of why echo chambers are a bad thing. They don't stop to think about why their beliefs might be wrong.
Humans are shaped by their material conditions
Also if humans were naturally greedy it would make sense for 99 percent of humanity to overthrow the 1 percent and distribute the benefits of society more equally.
Also if humans are naturally greedy it would make even less sense to stick with a capitalist system