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How the term “genocide” is misused in the Israel-Hamas war (www.economist.com)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I used to like The Economist, but this is Nazis propaganda right on their page.

Israel, by contrast, does not meet the test of genocide. There is little evidence that Israel, like Hamas, “intends” to destroy an ethnic group—the Palestinians. Israel does want to destroy Hamas, a militant group, and is prepared to kill many civilians in doing so. While some Israeli extremists might want to eradicate the Palestinians, that is not a government policy.

This is not okay. This is Nazi logic. Nazi, fascist logic, from The Economist.

Even Nazi Germany did not make killing the official "intention" or government policy in my understanding. At least not always. It was announced as a safety guarantee, for example.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

"It's not genocide because they're not trying to murder everyone. Yes, they are killing everyone but it's not intentional."

What a stupid fucking piece of shit excuse.

[+] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

I think classifying "hurt children, family dead" as a military metric should be the canary in the coalmine.

But again, we don't establish intent by catching Netenyahu saying "We're literally going to genocide the Palestinian people".

You'll have to establish intent, or motive, by collecting the many, many hundreds of statements, quotes and accounts regarding the Israeli state, Israeli organisations, Zionist organisation ACROSS THE DECADES, to the Zionist vacation plans, the gathering of settlers and international fund raising, the paper trail of property seized by the Israeli state in one form or another, the messaging, the subtext, and oh my god I'm glad I'm not a lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

What do you call it when a government accidentally wipes an ethnicity from a place through war and displacement over the course of several years? A genslaughter? An oopsie-daisy?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Just a quick correction, the ICJ (where this is taking place) is the UN Judicial body. The ICC, established by the Rome Statute, is a different thing. If you’re a UN member, the ICJ has jurisdiction.

https://www.icj-cij.org/court

The ICC is also launching a war crimes probe, but as you noted, Israel and the US aren’t signatories so that might not amount to much.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Although I understand your point, it's a stupid fucking piece of shit excuse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

If what's happening is broad incompetence, it is genocidal in its disregard for human life, and the IDF should be turned inside out at the Hague.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When you can apply that same anger and outrage to the other side, then you might have some credibility.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How so? Is it a requirement that someone state at every turn that Hamas is genocidal as well? Who is dying right now?