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All our coffee is served with two shots by default. We're not some fancy coffee shop, just a motorway service station that makes coffee to go. We have some regulars who order a decaff with an extra shot. I explain thats going to have three shots total, and they're happy with it.

But I keep thinking, if you have three shots of decaff, isn't that going to be as strong as a normal coffee? Whats the point?

Please forgive my ignorance

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Black coffee is still mostly water. Also, if you add water to whatever you call black coffee, it’s still black coffee, because it’s mostly water.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Black coffee is still mostly water.

??

I'm sorry but do you not understand what I mean or are you being nitpicky or what is going on here? I've never ever heard anyone adding water into regular (drip, french press) coffee. You either drink you coffee black or you add milk/creamer into it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do you think coffee is made? You infuse water with coffee beans, normally ground. How strong your coffee is depends on the concentration of actual coffee vs. the "base" (water). It's the same with tea.

Black coffee can be an espresso, or something with more water. Generally speaking, an espresso is more concentrated (and thus stronger) than an Americano.

A 300ml Americano with 1 shot of espresso has a certain coffe-to-water ratio. A 300ml Americano with 2 shots of espresso will have 2x as much coffee content despite it having the same volume.

In any case, an Espresso is mostly water, even the strongest, tinture-level ones. It's made by literally passing hot water through the beans so the water gets infused with coffee oils and alkaloids. It's mostly water. In fact, it's nearly all water.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is such a bizarre exchange. I'm honestly not sure if you're playing dumb or what's going on, but it should be entirely clear from the context that I'm talking about coffee as in the drink already made. In this case drip or french press coffee and whether someone is adding water to that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree. This is a bizarre exchange. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While I'm glad you noticed I'm still not sure if you're trolling or just thoroughly misunderstood what was being said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I assure you I’m not trolling. I understand what you’re saying, I just find your confusion … confusing.

It’s no worry though, I guess we just have such different ways to see the world and things that we can’t reconcile them. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I try to explain.

So for me, my assumption was that "coffee" is straight black drip coffee or espresso alone, but it really meant that part mixed in with something else and meant the whole drink. So when OP talked about adding shots (which I didn't know what it meant) to coffee (which I assumed was either straight black drip coffee or espresso) I was confused. What would you be adding to coffee, more coffee?? Like adding espresso to drip coffee??? Took me a moment to get that shots basically mean what I'd call the coffee and by coffee they meant what I'd think of as specialty coffee (some sort of mix) or coffee drink.

It was confusing because the same words are used to mean different things for me and OP and because I wasn't used to the shot terminology when it comes to coffee.

Man I hope I cleared it up, it's hard to explain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

People out there making coffe with something other than water as a base? I'm so fucking confused.

Grind beans, pass through water = coffee.

Are people passing hot milk through it? That must be a pain to clean out the machine.