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What's a good privacy respecting DNS over HTTPS provider? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Cloudflare DNS has DoH, but it's Cloudflare so... ew. Is there one that is more privacy respecting and also has DNS over HTTPS?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

This is controversial because they are "big bad" companies. But in some cases I think that is a plus because they have some responsibility to do as they say.

Use a resolver that is a part of Mozilla's Trusted Recursive Resolver Program. Mozilla makes them agree to a solid privacy policy: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/DOH-resolver-policy#Conforming_Resolvers
Google DNS. Obviously controversial but their privacy policy is very good. They keep "full" logs for at most 48 hours and only for debugging purposes.

The major concern for all of these is that they are allowed the keep anonymized logs forever. This means that if the hostname itself it sensitive then it can be recorded forever. (For example if you have "secret" subdomains).

The other option is running your own recursive resolver, this mostly nullifies the private subdomain issue as only the authoritative server will see it (other than network snoopers) however this has very real downsides.

It exposes your IP address to many authoritative servers with no guarantees about the logs they keep.
It can be slow as there is no shared cache.
Requests from your resolver to the internet are not encrypted.

Disclaimer: I used to work at Google (but not on Google Public DNS) and have no affiliation with other named or referenced companies.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Just because it is not the advice that is expected does not make it bad advice. Obviously these names have some questionable behaviours but in this case they often have separate privacy policies for their DNS services (or the Mozilla endpoint for their DNS services) which makes it much better than the other Google products which are lumped behind a single privacy policy which isn't very privacy friendly.

Unfortunately it is impossible to know for sure they are complying with the privacy policy, but this applies to all providers, no matter how large or what businesses they have other than providing DNS. So while you shouldn't blindly follow some random post on the internet you should may give these providers a second look-over and consider that these large companies have some privacy benefits if their privacy policy is accurate.