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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

“not everything is fully ported yet”

“There will probably be an awkward period before all of these pieces are in place for all of the people.”

I think these are the two key takeaways – Wayland is still in development and the bandwagoning are the early adopters – most of us will switch when our distros switch (and will probably be none the wiser)

the problems (and the reason we’re suffering through sensationalist stuff like “Wayland breaks everything!”) is the fanboy push to switch before it’s ready – not everybody lives on the bleeding edge (just like not everyone runs Arch) and the “switch now or be left behind” attitude does more harm than good (far more likely to alienate than convert) …

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Wayland is still in development and the bandwagoning are the early adopters

Not to bust your chops but I'm not sure what you're implying. What isn't still in development? WordStar? X11? Mac System 7? And Wayland's initial release was 2008. That's 15 years ago. Who are these "early adopters" of which you speak anymore?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The things you think aren't finished because it's still in development are actually not finished because they're just the way the developers want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Many of those things you're thinking of were declared Somebody Else's Problem by said developers. That's fine, but Wayland was not ready for use by normal end users until somebody else did finish them.

From what I hear most of them actually are finished by now, but they weren't as of a couple years ago when it started becoming commonplace to see declarations that the time to switch to Wayland was Right Now. I tried it out then, and am as a result much less enthusiastic about doing it again now even though it'd be much more likely to go well.