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U.S. "Know Your Customer" Proposal Will Put an End to Anonymous Cloud Users * TorrentFreak (torrentfreak.com)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Late January, the U.S. Department of Commerce published a notice of proposed rulemaking for establishing new requirements for Infrastructure as a Service providers (IaaS) . The proposal boils down to a 'Know Your Customer' regime for companies operating cloud services, with the goal of countering the activities of "foreign malicious actors." Yet, despite an overseas focus, Americans won't be able to avoid the proposal's requirements, which covers CDNs, virtual private servers, proxies, and domain name resolution services, among others.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This will never fly. Asking ISPs to verify identity is not a thing anyone is capable of doing. I've worked for hosting companies for the last 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Let's hope not, this sounds absolutely atrocious. Privacy rights are in such a sad state.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I can totally just see my company moving all overseas or regional cloud operations migrating to some awful Equinix DC.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

If a law were passed, infrastructure would materialize. Our freedoms cannot depend on the idea no one will step up to make money solving these "problems."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Unless your ISP is running a cloud service, it wouldn’t be their problem. AWS, Azure, Google etc would be the ones hit with stronger identification requirements.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about residential ISPs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Which ISPs. Also have hosting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

So don’t all ISPs know their customers. Usually they provide service to your place of residence or work.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Will it still be possible to purchase a VPS in another country and pay with Monero or something? This seems like insane over reach, are theu going to make it illegal for americans to do business with international IAAS providers?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The current administration and its agencies have clear contempt for any sort of crypto privacy they have shown in a variety of ways. The Tornado Cash sanction and criminal charges, recent Bitcoin mixer criminal charges, the proposed rule putting a "Primary Money Laundering Concern" black mark on people seeking crypto privacy in virtually any way... if it's possible to still purchase online services privately after this, I'm sure they will go on to take further measures to try to close the "loophole". They don't want anyone doing things without being able to monitor them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What would keep people living/companies working in the US from moving their infrastructure out of the country and having encrypted tunnels?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Cost. US is the biggest economy in the world and most tech companies are American. They could say if you don’t do this you can’t do business in America. Like cutting off tech companies doing business with China. It stopped non American companies.