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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's amazing how dumb this entire situation is. To my knowledge she hasn't even publicly endorsed a candidate or political party, right? Just suggested her fans register to vote?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Republicans understand that demographics are against them, and their only chance is to whip their base into a froth while simultaneously making it harder for Others to vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Ding ding ding

Just like it is every election season. Republicans rely on the electoral vote, propaganda, and systematic diseducation (idk if that’s even a word, case in point?) to ensure victories over the populace

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Correct. They've tacitly acknowledged for quite a while that discouraging their enemies from voting is a big part of their strategy, though, and I don't think anyone involved thinks the Taylor Swift fans are also Trump fans.

Honestly, if someone tries to tell you voting won't change anything, just point to how hard they try to rig the systems that drive it and how much they freak out about any indication that their enemies are planning to vote in large numbers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes. That is all she did. Got them to register to vote. She didn't even hint at who they should vote for. That might change now, and not the way Republicans want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Honestly, it's such an incredible own goal. By aligning themselves in opposition to her, Republicans are begging for her fans to vote against them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If Trump loses, I hope they have Taylor Swift play at Biden's Inauguration. I don't even like Taylor Swift's music, but it'd be a nice slap in the face to the GOP.

Actually, one tactic the Biden campaign could use to get out Swifties to vote for him is to pre-emptively get Taylor Swift to agree before the election to a concert at his inauguration. "Hey, if we win, guess who you can come see for free in concert?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can hear my mom yelling about it now. Funny how she was mostly ignorant about here existence until Fox News started complaining about her and now she hates her guts. Always liked watching the super bowl until this mess and now she's "maybe I don't bother".

But if I poke her about it she turns into "I am not just parroting them. You need to stop reading CNN and all those brainwashed sources."

It's so close to realizing, but won't cross the line. I have read about 2 articles from CNN in my entire life. The entire news industry hates maga now. It's pretty much just FN, Newsmax, and the absolute far end of the spectrum of hate preachers and Alex Jones that say anything close to what you want to hear, as far as I can see.

Yeah if the entire world can agree on something, but my preferred group is the holdout, I think I would re-examine my view. It's just mind boggling that just one huge mainstream network says stuff that all the others disagree with, and that's the one you are just so sure it's right about everything.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should try to sit down with her and watch, "The Brainwashing of my Dad" documentary. See if anything resonates with her at all.

Alternatively remind her that the RNC had Clint Eastwood speak at the convention, talking to an empty chair strangely...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

She is stuck on that side. If she knows some kind of news or information is not sanctioned by Fox News she automatically either avoids listening to it in the first place, or discounts it immediately. Even on just local news (and this is a very conservative area, at least this half of the state) if they say something about gay people, or just mention a gay event and if they don't immediately say something negative about it, she just rolls her eyes.

Even with a TV show she likes, if gay characters do a gay thing (omg 2 dudes kissing!) she will literally make the noise... Umm what is the word for it... Retching, I think? Whatever the barf noise is called. She will literally make that noise and look away from the screen.

There is nothing rational about this kind of behavior, you can't win this argument. The chess board is already on the floor here.

So I don't know anything about that documentary, but if she has any reason to think it's not sponsored by Fox News, it's literally just fiction at best and "Communist Marxist propaganda" at worst.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Yeah that's sad but I can completely understand. Religions have been abusing this for eons and now it's being used directly for a political ideology. There comes a point where reason doesn't even matter.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You know what? It's kinda nice that it may come down to mainstream culture to bring this poison down. It just highlights how different our culture is from our politics. I'm not sure I have point.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I still fail to see anything resembling logic in the GOP's sudden war against Taylor Swift. I don't follow Taylor Swift at all, but to my knowledge has never publicly endorsed a candidate or even taken a side on a political issue. She is a pop singer currently enjoying outsized popularity, but it's mostly about catering to preteen girls, and showing up at NFL games acting as if she's just the world's richest starstruck fan.

Her base, or at least the ones old enough to vote, aren't interested in her politics. They're interested in her music. They're interested in her fashion. They're interested in watching her fawn all over Travis Kelce like she's a 12 year old girl. There was no overlap between Swifties and the political left.

But if the GOP wants to put that ball in play, there will be. They are currently trying to frame it as you can either be a Swiftie or MAGA. And if the GOP thinks that Swifties are going to abandon her for Donald fucking Trump, they're going to have a bad time. And given how tight the race is in some of the swing states Trump needs to carry if he has a shot at winning, there is a very real possibility that he could end up losing races in states he may have otherwise won because he pissed off enough Swifties to swing the election. (Remember that some of these states were decided by barely 10,000 votes. I will guarantee you there is not a state in the country that doesn't have at least that many Swifties, probably several times over.)

Taylor Swift's fan base aren't cans of Bud Light. Taylor Swift doesn't have corporate shareholders to answer to. Taylor Swift isn't going to back down out of fear of lost sales. Any Swifties that are motivated enough to go to the polls based off of this stupid culture war I will guarantee will vote in lockstep for Biden. Not even for policy reasons, but just as their way of telling the GOP to go fuck themselves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think this is silly and her influence is blown way out of proportion.

But Taylor Swift has endorsed candidates in the past.

Taylor Swift Endorses Democratic Candidates In Tennessee

Taylor Swift endorses Joe Biden for President

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They're mostly worried about this: https://www.npr.org/2023/09/22/1201183160/taylor-swift-instagram-voter-registration

When Taylor Swift speaks, her fans listen.

On Tuesday morning, the singer posted a short message on Instagram encouraging her 272 million followers to register to vote. Afterward, the website she directed her fans to — the nonpartisan nonprofit Vote.org — recorded more than 35,000 registrations, according to the organization.

"I've been so lucky to see so many of you guys at my U.S. shows recently. I've heard you raise your voices, and I know how powerful they are," she wrote on her Instagram Stories. "Make sure you're ready to use them in our elections this year!" Her post included a link to register at Vote.org.

The 35,252 new registrations on National Voter Registration Day were the most since 2020, the organization said, and a 23% jump over last year. The number of 18-year-olds registered was more than double 2022.

They know what's coming. They can't stop it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, check all the numbers around the country. Obviously numbers are going to increase closer to election season, especially another very controversial one.

Let's just hope Swift isnt the big moving force, since the candidates she endorsed in Tenessee in 2018 lost while she was getting the same type of news stories

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Meh, Tennessee is Tennessee. Can't expect much from there. I suspect they simply would've lost by wider margins. The key question is how her generalized drive for voter turnout influences youth turnout in hotly-contested swing-states. When youth turn out, Democrats win. 2022 midterms proved that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I really feel this is a Streisand Effect taking action. There's no way this doesn't make Taylor Swift more political.

Her voter-turnout drives will be massive for the election.

Oh and if you hear any of these people complain about celebrities, remind them that they got Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair at the RNC in some demented rant.