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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

If your opinion is regarding cheese, you're already on very thin ice

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Opinions can’t be “respected.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how consequential it is. If it's about Taylor Swift it doesn't matter, feel however you want, but if it's about how society should be run than yeah you kinda do

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago

The you are agreement with others here. It depends on the threat level.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I can respect the opinion of someone who is not making any arguments. I can respect the opinion of someone who mostly makes bad arguments but sometimes makes good arguments. I probably won't respect the opinion of someone who only makes terrible arguments, especially if they are also an asshole about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It depends on what your opinion is and what you mean by respect.

If your opinion is not well explained or backed up by evidence/logic and isn't something completely subjective, what is there to respect?

If your opinion is reprehensible, downright stupid, or ignorant? You have access to the entire base of human knowledge and are still ignorant, so what is there to respect?

Your opinion is completely logical/uncontroversial or is well backed by evidence? Where does respect come into it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wanted to type something really snarky, but I'm trying to be better than that.

So I refer you to the fact that you should still have respect for someone's opinion even if they don't have complete knowledge on it, or to put it your way "You have access to the entire base of human knowledge and are still ignorant, so what is there to respect?".

People are allowed to have opinions that should be respected even though they don't have complete knowledge of a subject

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

What do you mean by respected?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No. Your beliefs, yes. Your opinions, not at all.

But “respect” for a belief can have many meanings. I’m not going to try to change your beliefs unless you’re into that. So I’ll respect them in that sense. But I’m not going to adopt your beliefs or act them out just because you have them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I do not respect your belief but I do respect you believing it. French law is very clear about the distinction

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Not necessarily. If you have a lot of experience or a different perspective and you seem trustworthy to me, you don't need to have a good argument. On the other hand, if someone else comes along with a good argument why your opinion is wrong, I will start doubting you.

For example, if you've been growing potatoes for 30 years, you don't have to explain the biochemistry of potatoes for me to respect your advice. And if you're a black person telling me that our town is terribly racist, I will believe you without needing a list of every single racist incident that happened to you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Agreeing to disagree isn't something I put caveats on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

No, you could have great arguments while being an ass. When you don't argue from any morals or ethics, or a ground floor of ascertaining the truth, I have zero respect for your opinions. I don't really care about what a 'good' argument looks like, it doesn't even need to be good, as long as your grounded in reality and ethics, you're fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

depends on the opinion and what you mean by "respect", i suppose. i will say though that if someone goes around spouting baseless nonsense and expects to be taken seriously, i will probably respect them less as a person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It helps, but ultimately my perception will overrule your opinion if the two conflict. I tend to not listen to or express opinion much—he says, about to express his opinion... It's like belief, where gaps of knowledge are filled by faith/assumption in order to reach a certain point of belief. An opinion is reached the same and implies there.could be (a lot) more time spent on assumption than checking other avenues. Afterall, if your opinion were true, it wouldn't be an opinion, it would just be what is. You'd be able to share the existing knowledge, not argue it. The more knowledge you can share, the more valid it is...unless I have a perception of value like first-hand experience or as a subject matter expert.

Although, keep in mind that I'll show you the same respect as you show me. We don't need.to respect each other's opinions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

An argument is only as respectable as the person making it.

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