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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Can this be circumvented somehow? And how would apps with end to end encryption work if a person in a non-EU state spoke to someone inside the EU?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would a way to legally bypass this be an app that can "encrypt" your text before your send it. The government would be able to see all of your messages but it would be scrambled in a way that they couldn't read it.

Something where both people would install the same text scrambling app and generate the same key to scramble all text (would need to do in person). They would then type all their text into the app and it would scramble it. The user would then copy The Scrambled text and send it over any messaging platform they want. The recipient would need to copy the text and put it back into the scrambling app to descramble it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is how PGP works and is pretty widely used. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah... Because hampering legal encryption will totally hamper all those who just continue to use the methods we have today.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Assume any encrypted system can be decrypted at some point anyway. The best encryption is at the source- your language and the way you present the message you want to keep hidden.

Of course, this does not apply to people who just want their general conversation encrypted. To you, I say you're out of luck and I'm sorry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suspect you can easily relate to the frustration of being dragged into arguments on irrelevant details of a thing for which the actual concerns are fundamental in nature. That's not nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like how patrick breyer makes a warning with all the logical points. Especially this: "Fourthly, scanning for known, thus old material does not help identify and rescue victims, or prevent child sexual abuse. It will actually make safeguarding victims more difficult by pushing criminals to secure, decentralised communication channels which are impossible to intercept even with a warrant."

I am not sure what the people over there think, but the criminals will not just continue using these services.

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