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[–] [email protected] 118 points 8 months ago (14 children)

As someone from outside the USA, I'm surprised a state flag looks this good. I dig it.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There has been a recent movement of states with bad flags trying to improve their image. Illinois might be next and I'm quite excited about it as it's long overdue!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

I thought, "Doesn't Illinois have one of the few good state flags?"

Nope, I was thinking of the city flag of Chicago. The state flag is literally just the state crest on a white background. It would absolutely benefit from a redesign. :p

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

There's actually a few nice ones. Check out New Mexico, one of my personal favourites.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think NM is ok, but we Coloradoans fuckin' LOVE our flag.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Best looking flag to ever be on a Subaru.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's no California Bear, but it's up there

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

The bear is great but the fact that they label it "CALIFORNIA" in big block letters makes me laugh every time I see it. It's like a child drawing.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I just watched CGP Grey's video about state flags yesterday

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

He's a Colorado hater though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Lol he stuck to his "no name on the flag" rule but I recall him saying it was decent. Im from IL so I cant complain about bad flags

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Tbf, it does look a bit like a corporate logo

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I still can't believe they tried to stop this from being adopted because better designs are woke now apparently

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Look, let's be honest. Any change is "woke." There is this imaginary world that existed 80 years ago that they want to get back to, that was all sunshine and surplus, and they think that any change, particularly progressive change, is bad and "woke."

Edit: so I realized what instance I was in and that this isn't the appropriate place for that rant. So I will just say that I really appreciate the changes that are being made to flags, because it seems like the people coming up with the flags in the first place didn't really get it.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do like that they took "hexagons are the bestagons" to heart.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Looks like an nfl team logo. I hate how contemporary corporate design it is.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (6 children)

You think that's bad, check out some of the municipal flags in Japan, especially the ones designed in the early 2000s. The ones based on old clan symbols are fine, but those other ones look like some corpo bro from the 90s commissioned designs by saying "I want it to have more radical swoosh vibes!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_municipal_flags_of_T%C5%8Dhoku_region

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hirosaki not changing theirs is… interesting.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I guess Buddhism is still common enough in Asia that WWII didn't completely ruin the manji. You still see temples marked on maps with it these days.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some of those must have been straight up inspirations for Star Wars. Looking at you Hachinoche and Kamikita.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Still better than the state seal on a flag

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Contemporary corporate is extremely fitting to the Mormon majority.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Weird, it doesn’t feel corporate at all to me. A flat, simple design doesn’t immediately mean something’s corporate.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I don't hate it. Mountains and bees. Two things I love.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Is there alot of bees there?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Since you haven't received a serious answer yet...

Utah is self reffered to as the Beehive State because Brigham Young originally wanted to name it "Deseret" from the Book of Mormon. "Deseret" in LDS teachings means "Honeybee". This was meant to show that the Mormon settlers were hardworking, industrious, and self reliant.

This obviously didn't fly for a ton of reasons and they didn't have much of a choice after the Union Army basically chased them halfway across the country and then took a foothold right alongside them in the territory to make sure they didn't establish a Theocratic state.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (17 children)

to make sure they didn’t establish a Theocratic state.

Another Big L for the US military

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

US military v theocratic state in the desert, name a more iconic duo.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Wait it's actually to do with Mormonism? Wild

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

As someone who used to live there, that's exactly what I thought too!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

is utah known for beekeeping or something?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

When settlers first got to Utah they imported bees and brought them in to help develop and cultivate. Since then, Utah has been known as the beehive state.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That would be a logical reason for it but remember this is Utah... so no.

Bees have weird place in Mormon lore. The creepy founder created a new name for them in the Book of Mormon "Deseret".

His successor, Brigham Young, used it as the name of country Mormons tried to establish in the west.

"It represents a theocracy ruled by the church."

The bee symbolism used in sermons from the 1850s described the godly society the Saints strove to build.

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-symbolism-of-the-beehive-in-latter-day-saint-tradition/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Wow. That is nuts.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

that makes sense. thanks for the utah lore

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

looks like colorado envy to me…haha

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

It's well designed, nice shapes and colours

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

They've flattened the Disney logo

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