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Not sure if hypermarkets do the same thing in other countries, but I've seen it in the states and it pisses me off

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even if you can afford it it makes no sense. Impulse giving is not a solution to systemic food insecurity, homelessness, insufficient healthcare, etc. If there's a societal problem, there should be a societal solution. I don't turn to Walmart to meaningfully address these issues, nor do I trust them to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even if you can afford it and want to do it, doing it through them let's them take a tax cut through you. Instead of you taking the tax cut.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Care-washing: the greenwashing-adjacent pretending to give a shit about anything other than sloppy blowjobs for your board, top executives, and large shareholders.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Safeway does that shit. No, I don't want to end hunger. You're a grocery store, you end hunger, assholes.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just so everyone is aware, when companies ask you to donate, they have ALREADY PAID for the donation and they are trying to get their money back by nickle and diming their customers. Don't fall for this.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love it when McDonalds does this shit

Like, bruh, how about you take money from my order and give that to charity instead?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe even match the donation, or even half of it. I get that a penny here and there adds up really quickly to an enormous brand like McDonald's, but seriously matching it even for pennies on the dollar would go far to prove that they're not just trying to associate themselves with being charitable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If they actually cared they would donate a dollar of each order they get to charity, that would be houndreds of thousands if not a million per month

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If you have any to spare, give your money directly to the victims of capitalism: homeless people.

Most charities under capitalism are an excuse to overpay MBA board members with your donation dollars and then brag about being on that board in capitalist circles. Most corporate drives are a way for those corporations to lower their own tax bill on your dime. Most things that need charity under capitalism are glaring reminders of what parts of society capitalist greed leaves out in the cold to starve.

If the homeless spend it on liquor, good for them, a slight reprieve and numbing of the pain our society inflicts on them 24/7 for the crime of being sub-optimal capital batteries. What, did you think $20 was enough for them to pull themselves back from the abyss the capitalists sent them to to die of exposure and ~~police~~ oligarch defense force brutality?

And if you won't do that because you won't get a receipt from the homeless human beings to write your donation off on your own taxes, starving the commons of revenue, then fuck you, that isn't charity. Charity is giving with no expectation of return, save a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

There's a name for giving money and expecting something tangible back in return like a tax break: a transaction.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out givewell.org. They evaluate charities based on cost-effectiveness.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Good reply Seitanic, thank you for the constructive rather than antagonistic input, it is noticed and appreciated

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the homeless spend it on liquor, good for them, a slight reprieve and numbing of the pain our society inflicts on them 24/7 for the crime of being sub-optimal capital batteries.

I fully agree with you, expect for this part. Not because I want to control what they do with the money, but because I don't want to give means to substances that will most likely extend how long they are in that situation.

I know the US has very little social services, but substance use is often comorbid with homelessness. In that way, how can I give money -- in good conscious -- to someone I'd be worried could be making their situation worse? Or should I just accept that everyone has free will and that they themselves know what's best for their futures?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's nice news, but a promised UBI must undoubtedly give a different result than randomly receiving smaller sums?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I always refuse based on principle. You're really going to guilt me in public into giving a few cents even though you're a corporation who could easily afford millions or billions? Fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Canada does it all the time as well. I don't feel even a hint of guilt denying it. They also want my name, phone number, address and postal code, all of which I refuse to give, even if I can save 25% on whatever I'm buying.

I'm not a prostitute.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Prostitutes have an assumption of anonymity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It is. It was being pushed on me by a cannabis store to get cheaper weed a couple weeks back. So its fresh in my mind. However, not giving out my information has resulted in no spam calls on my phone, and that peace and quiet is worth a few extra dollars.

She claimed they would never sell or use that information except to get me to confirm my phone number in a text.

It reminded me of when I was at Cabela's about ten years ago, and gave them my name and email, only she misspelled my name real bad, and I didn't correct her. I got spam emails for years with that misspelling afterwards.

There is always a price to pay.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These corporations then pass off your donations as their own and get a tax write off

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No they don’t. You are the one making the donation, according to tax code, you are the one who gets to claim the donation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're often donating to the store's charities, which can function to ease their burden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like who? Best Buy does St Jude’s. Most grocery stores are doing it through Feeding America.

And that means that you wouldn’t be able to use the donations as tax deductible on taxes.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter to you that this is false and is just something you repeat every chance you get I assume

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not really offended by the asking for donations at the register thing, as long as those donations go 100% to the charity and it's a good charity, then doing something to make it easy for people to contribute who wouldn't otherwise take the time is ultimately a good thing.

The one that annoys me is where they match the donations. It feels like a method to guilt people into it by making their refusal to donate $1 into $2 not being donated.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rich people are begging poor people to give charity and this makes you, a poor person, feel good?

I’m outraged by chutzpah of asking your customers to give to charity when the company barely does any charity of their own.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Walmart had $572,800,000,000 in revenue for 2022. Thats up $14,000,000,000 from 2021. They paid out shareholders $15,900,000,000

I'm sure my $1 will make a huge difference.

Source: https://corporate.walmart.com/content/dam/corporate/documents/press-center/walmart-releases-2022-annual-report-and-proxy-statement/walmart-inc-2022-annual-report.pdf

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I think you're both right here. Making it easy to donate to a cause with which you believe, by making a donation box available, is awesome. Guilt tripping you into it is wrong. Asking you loudly at the register is wrong. Matching my donation (a form of shaming if you don't donate) is wrong. A grocery store around here use to do a "we are donating $x to this charity, help us if you can by adding to the pile" thing, which was nice. They donated what they donated, and you added on top of that if you could. They made it easy. Then they got on the "we'll match your donation" train, and that, imo, was wrong. Pure chutzpah. I stopped donating at the stores when that happened. I'll still donate directly to the organization, though, if I agree with their cause.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it is completely inappropriate. Some people can barely afford to live and then have to feel shame and judged when they have to say no.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is also why tipping culture grinds my gears

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

In Vancouver the expected % of tipping has become higher than the interest rate of a grocery store credit card. Even moral purists who think they're saving the world by tipping are starting to say no.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Canada, there is no tax write off or anything that compliments them in donations. It is totally and utterly a cock measure for "lookie at what we done!" for PR by making their employees ask people to their face for charity on behalf of the corporation. And the charities will encourage this because, well they get it all and they're name also gets said directly to the face of the consumers.

essentially they replaced a separate paid mall santa with an already paid teller and feel good about it.

So please, tell Y'all Mart to fuck off. Find a manager to explain your distaste and disgust. Legit, go to customer service and get a manager. If you think you're super cool and clever with "smrt cuments" or anger towards the poor fuck who has to ask, no. You're an asshole and just being a cunt to ruin someones day. It's not the worker, stupid. Many rely on those charities and it is doubly insulting and embarrassing to even bring it up.

"I might need those har har har" fuck you. the person you are being a tard to is already on them. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

If you mean it, and feel that desire to say it, take it to the fucking manager. Keep those pricks standing there for hours. You'd actually be getting your message into the correct channel, and likely doing the clerks a favor because i have never met one that felt good about having to ask people for money like that.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen this in Australian supermarkets and especially in clothing stores

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Can't shop at Cotton On anymore.

Would you like to buy the single use plastic water to provide safe drinking water to people? No. How about make a donation to starving kids? No. How about buying these socks to support shelter for some country? No. Are you a member? No. Would you like to be a member? No.

Would you...... "NO. JUST LET ME PAY FOR MY T SHIRT"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

TLDR; those donations go straight to the same corporations' pockets and "help" them :D

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Super super markets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

In some countries bigger grocery stores are called that. I think it exists mainly in French and Italian regions

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always say "nah, fuck em."

I'm not helping them get more tax breaks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They do not get a tax break for it. They do get cheap PR though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It happens in the UK too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know where that money goes but it sure as hell isn't to any of the people doing the actual work

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