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I got a new phone yesterday. I also use a wheelchair. The wheels have an app called "e-motion M25" which I used on my old phone. I patched it using lucky patcher since most functions (turn wheels on, cruise control, remote to drive the wheelchair to my current chair) are behind an incredible expensive paywall.

Since I don't own the wheels (they're technically still insurance property) and the software isn't super reliable, I won't pay over €300 just to use my wheels.

But I can't seem to patch it on my new phone, even when sharing the patched app directly from my old one. The store simply won't open. I've not been rooted since forever and prefer not to root at all, since it was possible to do so on my old phone.

Would anybody care to help me out or give me some tips on where to look? Thanks in advance!

UPDATE after spending my entire morning on the floor, I installed older versions of the app until I found one that worked with luckypatcher. I know it's a small chance but if someone using the same wheels finds this post, you have to figure out how to download luckypatcher and use this version of the app. In lucky patcher create a multi patch APK and make sure to turn off "billing" in the second screen. When opening the store, be careful not to scroll to the complete bottom or else the app wil crash. Buy each pack individually and lucky patcher will handle things from there.

To every commenter: thank you. Lemmings are the best and capitalism is the devil.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! This may be helpful for my sister in the future.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

These are the Alber e-motion M25 wheels so if you ever need more help in the future don't be shy to dm me :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

please spare some ADA for us thanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Wait. You ARE in EU. Hmm...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Was your old phone rooted? You might have patched the odex files instead of the apk as others have pointed out. And it might be that modifying the actual installed apk file changes the signatures that the app checks for, while it assumes the odex files are correct and that it just works. I've seen some apps check for modifications from Lucky Patcher (even with odex patches), but not nearly all apps go to that kind of length, and it seems that this app doesn't check. Disclaimer, I never delved deep into the actual working of this stuff, this is based on what I've noticed when I tried patching apps on a rooted vs non-rooted device. I think you might be outta luck unless you root your phone. Godspeed either way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Is there some cache on your old phone from some previous 'activate on this device' required?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

In the future, people will remember William Gibson as a prophet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just ordered a pair of these wheels on eBay when I saw this post. I hope this works when I get them, cuz I was ticked off to see the $330 unlock price for the app! Also, any tips for these wheels?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can always use my older app trick to unlock all the features and if you need help I can add you on signal messenger to help out more in detail. On/off can be done on the wheels, but it will turn on to the last used setting (1 or 2). If you have the remote, you can use that to change the modes. 1 is indoor use and 2 outdoor.

General wheel tips:

  • Be sure to practice a lot in practice mode and mode 1.
  • Always use some anti tipping wheels on your chair since these wheels can go whack sometimes if you push too quickly/hard or get stuck (ex: door). I always use mine except when using a handbike.
  • Be very careful changing the parameters and test each change you make well. It's a sensitive boi.
  • Password for getting into the 'professional' mode is $AlBr-MtN25!
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! I did download the version you linked as soon as I saw the post. So the app is on my phone & hopefully it'll work with lucky. App doesn't do much until it's paired. No remote, so the expensive app was so irritating to see, with it locking away basic functions. And, wow, good find on the pro password!

I'm actually kinda nervous about them. Ebay & out of pocket isn't the ideal startup when buying something like this. I have MS & RA, so I need the chair for balance issues mostly, but weak muscles & joints too. I can get around my house with leaning on walls, so they are for outside the house & had to fit in a tiny smart car boot. I really hope they minimize the effort it takes to push myself forward. I also will have to figure out how to walk a dog with them. Scary to hear they're super sensitive.

I've heard the push rims break a lot from some of the reviews. Manual says to never lift em by them or lay em on that side. They really that delicate?

I mainly only go to a dog park, so I'm going to be testing how "water" resistant they are for sure there.

I've been using a FireFly 2.5, that's a front wheel battery powered hookup, with a big knobby wheel, so I never took it to stores or anything. I expect this to be much more useable for me. I haven't been in a store in like 4 years now.

Practice mode huh?, I'll be sure to use that. I need to find my antitippers. They were the first thing I took off my chair when I got it.

I can't find any info on the brackets that are put on the chair, except an expert must put them on. They can't be that crazy to put on, can they?

Sorry about the random questions. I really can't wait to get them. I've wanted them for a few years now. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They for sure help a lot with making moving easier! I have them on quite a high setting so it takes me minimal effort. I wanted to use my arms to move my chair because it's good to move as long as you can, but I don't have the strength for a regular chair. You can tweak settings so they aren't as sensitive and you won't tip over. That's what I have setup on the "1" setting.

It is indeed important to not lift the chair by the push rims. My husband (I don't lift it) grabs the bar behind my backrest and the front bars where the front wheels are attached. It is important not to clamp them in-between anything in the car. I have silicone covers on the rims and in our old small car we took the wheels off and just carefully put them down, push rim downwards. Nothing on top. They still work. Just be gentle.

I have an aversion to rain and wetness LOL and I can advice some gloves to use when it's wet to prevent slipping hands on the rims. Also a random tip: I use some small leg warmers on my coat sleeves so I can wash them regularly and my coat stays clean.

The brackets I'm not sure off. I didn't put anything together myself so unfortunately I can't help you out on that.

Don't apologize for the questions, it's hard to figure out everything in disability world and finding someone who uses the exact same wheels can feel like winning the lottery, lol.

When you get the app working (and the remote option unlocked), the little hat icon is the learning mode:

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