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[–] [email protected] 184 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Only if you don't know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah this post is nearly upsettingly ignorant.

Cloudflare is just about the only big internet company out there objectively doing good things for the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems like saying road construction makes driving objectively worse or security guards make a stadium venue objectively worse.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

BACK IN MY DAY WE BROUGHT RIFLES TO GAME DAY TO TAUNT THE PLAYERS

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Maybe their point is just privatisation or something.

For example a dns provider like cloudfare just could artificially make latency costs for servers that don't agree with something cloudfare does bigger, which would result in them being less likely to be displayed in a search result because a search engine would have IP adresses faster from other servers. This obviously depends on if a search engine makes dns requests or just provides hostnames for the end user.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Single point of failure for the whole internet.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.

If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about akamai? Other CDNs and the like.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

There exists competition, they've just been doing it consistently well at a large scale for awhile.

They've done nothing to prevent competition, because they're legit AF. The competition just hasn't put a dent in their market share because they're excellent at what they do.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call clourflare a single point.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.

So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (12 children)

O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP should actually be mad at the criminals making cloudflare necessary for some by attacking sites. Those are the ones making the internet worse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I can be mad at both.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

So it wasn't just me. Good to know.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Idk, but my homelab thanks it for the free ZTN and workers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Solve 5 more because you're using a vpn."

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want to upvote and downvote this post.. it's so controversial

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Cloudflare is excellent, this post is nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

don't listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

To all the upstart website-havers: no, you probably don't actually need to use cloudflare

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.

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