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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile in the real world

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Because the single only way to do communism is how the UdSSR did it, there's no other way.

And of course it's only possible to either agree with the whole of a specific ideology, or none of it. There's no "good parts of communism" or "bad parts of capitalism" it's only ever all good or all bad.

Politics is the mind-killer.

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[–] tim1996@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wish we could look at what the ussr did right and how it worked around its restrictions without rose tinted glasses. Some central planning of efficient railways and large industrial machinery might not be a bad idea. Lezz a fair doesn't always produce great results. Walkable neighborhoods and commie blocks aren't such a bad idea but fascist dictators are.

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[–] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Well we're not praising fascism and corruption.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean there is, but all of the major nations fall somewhere in the middle of the capitalism / socialism spectrum.

China, a communist nation, has private businesses. The US, a capitalist nation, has public infrastructure and social safety nets.

It’s a gradient, and very few nations are 100% on the edge of the spectrum.

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[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

As a someone whose country belonged to the western bloc, I can relate xD

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The vague idea of getting the same as everyone else, while not having to actually make the effort, appeals to sheltered and unappreciative western kids who feel oppressed because they have to put down thier entertainment device and do thier maths homework.

Borderline champagne socialists

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[–] PASAQUALIA@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

It's funny because if you look at living standards in eastern Europe during communism's peak they were wayyy better than they are now

[–] thevoyagekayaking@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago

Oh man, Lemmygrad will not like this one bit.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago
[–] Nano@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Yeah this is really messed up, I still don't know if I am going to stay on this site, too much annoying commies here

[–] varzaman@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Lol half the comments are “idk what you’re talking about”. A good chunk are proving OP right, and the rest is America hate.

Exactly like on Reddit. Literally isn’t any different here.

[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk -1 points 2 years ago

Thats exactly what i feel when i hear anything good about communism, it killed so many people in Ukraine... NEVER AGAIN!

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Educated people in general have to say on politics the same things that I said earlier, but they are very nostalgic over less criminalized popular culture, better technical education and rules being followed. So am I to some extent actually.

In Moscow? You're not being fair. Educated people in the soviet union from Moscow lived extremely well and have very positive views. Engineers, scientists, etc will all say positive things. You know as well as I do that hundreds of video interviews will confirm this. Be fairer, claiming that everyone that supports the ussr among the over 60s is just uneducated is definitely untrue. This particular video series is in Moscow and this lady is exactly what I am talking about.

You can't live in Moscow and say this is untrue. You're being unfair.

No recollection at all, I’m 1996, but since transition from USSR to modern Russia didn’t happen in an instance, in various institutions and organizations you can still see in some ways how it was. More in my childhood than now, but still.

Brought up in shock therapy then.

if you weren’t in denial.

I'm not in denial. I'm asking you to be fairer. The data does not support your position. You know as well as I do that 75% of the country consider the soviet era to be when the country was at its greatest (and that this is easily verifiable from many sources), and you know damn well that 75% of the country aren't all uneducated people. You are not being fair.

[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Communism isn't the issue the same way Capitalism isn't the issue, the issue is rich people abusing working class and poor people. Removing democracy from these systems just make them absolutely horrid in the long run. Also China isn't communist it's state capitalist dictatorship.

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