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As open source as Android is, it is very difficult to find a decent browser, let alone one that is privacy focused and also usable on daily.

  • Almost all web searches point to site that shows stuff like : Chrome, Edge, Opera....etc. So this doesnt help.

  • Play Store is full of shitty browsers. If you skip the usual DDG, Chrome, Edge, Opera...etc then you will see either:

a) browsers from random Chinese company (Via, UC Browser)

or b) browser that is coupled with other products, e.g. a video downloader with built in browser.

  • After the recent fiasco with Firefox and their ToS, I saw a lot of posts saying IronFox / Water Fox is better. I've never heard of these Foxes variants before.

So I tried the following on Android:

  • DDG: only good if you do basic search. It lacks a good adblocker. So very annoying if you are on a site with shit tons of popups.

  • Brave: not a fan of the in your face AI tools. Overall it works ok though

  • The Foxes variants: IronFox seems to be very good on privacy. It has its own DNS and most of the security is on by default. However, same as all Foxes, IronFox just doesnt play well on Android. There is a slight lag when you try to switch tabs.

  • TOR: This would be the safest. But the poorest in terms of usability.

  • Chrome w/o account or Chrome run from private space. Surprisingly, Chrome is still the one browser that runs the smoothest.....

Any input is appreciated.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I use 3 browsers on my android devices. All 3 on all of them. That's Firefox as the primary, and then Firefox Focus, and Firefox Nightly.

In the primary Firefox browser, I use uBlock Origin.

I have no lag - so why you talk about "all foxes" here, I don't really know. Maybe you do know that Google, Like MS, Apple and others, always try to make it harder to use anything else, than their solution?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I've been on Waterfox for years and see no reason worth changing for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Cromite+Fennec

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Compartmentalize, you don't need to use the same browser for everything.

Fennec on Fdroid + uBlock Origin for Youtube, everyday browsing, through a VPN (split tunnel) to a privacy-friendly country

Chrome for the "normie" stuff, like banking, making purchases, taxes, government stuff, since those likely break on firefox-like browsers, and those are tied to identity anyways, no need to hide anything. Chrome goes through my real IP (cuz transactions would fail if make over a VPN)

Tor Browser for Lemmy (bypasses VPN, because using both VPN + Tor is practically unusable, too slow, just Tor is good enough)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I use Firefox Focus/Klar as my default and if I want anything to persist, I'll open it in Brave or Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 13 hours ago

I use IronFox and have no qualms. Vandium on graphene is also popular. Buy apart from that I can't offer up much more

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago

I've been running IronFox for a while and it's been solid.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've been using Fennec and it works 99% of the times and on the rare occasion I need Chromium based browser I use Brave. I don't have any issues with either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Usually the same. Except Brave I use Vivaldi.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Same except my alt is chromite

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Or, any of a dozen browsers in F-Droid. Each would require evaluation and research, but Android is certainly not restricted in choices.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago

According to the tests I've run, IronFox, Brave, and Tor Browser are the only options (in my opinion).

Cromite also works, as does Vanadium, but they're... basic, and the fingerprinting resistance could be better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Also on IronFox and it's solid.

If you already use Brave on desktop then that works fine too and syncs your data. Not a huge fan of the crypto/AI stuff in the browser, but the security/privacy aspect of the browser is good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Gonna be real, Firefox with some settings changed + uBlock/Librewolf + uBlock is Brave, and even better honestly. Brave has whitelisted some trackers on sites, and they also will break a site while not giving you a chance to find the one tracker breaking the site, forcing you to turn the entire shield off, defeating the purpose. Meanwhile, uBlock with advanced settings on will allow you to still block anything unnecessary to letting the site do basic functions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I use Cromite. It's a more hardened fork of Bromite. Which itself is a hardened fork of Chromium.

The only thing I've found so far is that it likes to block the discussion threads on some websites. But other than that I've had no issues whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

i run cromite, it works quite well, has built in ad and track blocking and is quite fast

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Currently on mobile I run DDG for primary uses, and Tor browser occasionally when I want extra privacy, but it is too slow to use for everything. DDG is fine IMO. It's simple and I like the default "always incognito" approach it has. I have no issues using their search and tend to avoid sites littered with ads anyway.

I refuse to use any chromium descended browser anymore, so stuff like Brave is out. I would be interested in migrating to some libre-like version of firefox, but haven't figured out what that would be yet from the options that are out there. I would want something that can let me always be incognito, block all trackers, not store history or cookies, etc... so basically DDG.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've been using DuckDuckGo's browser, it's pretty alright.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

DuckDuckGo Browser is a webview browser which has weaker tab isolation and uses the system's default webview implementation, most often chrome webview.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Vivaldi, sync ee2e with the desktop version.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I'm spread out across Waterfox, Ironfox, Brave and Vivaldi.

For FF forks, don't neglect extensions like JShelter. They make a difference as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)
  • Tor browser for anonymous/private regular browsing (without logging into personally-identifiable accounts)
  • Vanadium (GrapheneOS' Chromium-based browser, maybe it's usable on non-GrapheneOS as well?) in combination with a good crap-blocking DNS server
  • Brave is decent but has some bad default settings, can probably be configured to behave well (similar to regular Firefox)
  • Firefox + forks are generally not that great (at least on Android?) because their sandboxing capabilities (and maybe other security features) are weaker compared to those of Chromium-based browsers. See also: https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing
  • Proprietary browsers like Chrome, Edge, Opera, and so on all contain loads of on-by-default-spyware and should never be used
[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Glad to hear Brave isn't awful. I haven't tried it as I'm trying to avoid Chrome entirely for now.

I've been using IceRaven/Mull on a very old (out of support) LG phone, and I'm not sure I entirely understand the "pauses" thing? I don't see meaningful pauses when I switch tabs, other than the page reloading if it was purged from RAM. But like. That happens in Safari on iOS on a brand new phone, too, so it's not entirely an Android-specific complaint.

Honestly, all mobile browsers are UI train-wrecks of one kind or another. For me it was this exact process of elimination to decide which I like least, and then from there deciding which inflict the fewest paper cuts. For me, FF sync (settings mostly, but also tab sets) was more important than whatever memory problems Mozilla rebrands might have. :(

[–] [email protected] -3 points 13 hours ago

It sounds like you've come to the correct conclusion that no browser is best. I use Brave.