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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago

We will end up with a general population that knows their immigration/civil liberties laws and rights, and how to exercise them.

It's going to be real interesting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Cops will take as much freedom as you give them and often they will attempt more than they have been granted. Never give cops an inch they are not legally entitled to. In democracies, laws exist to grant people freedom from the power of the state, not to grant the state freedom from the power of the people. Any laws that grant cops protection from the people are laws of a tyranny. We get only the protections of the state that our rights make possible and no more. Trading freedom for security gets us neither.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In democracies, laws exist to grant people freedom from the power of the state, not to grant the state freedom from the power of the people. Any laws that grant cops protection from the people are laws of a tyranny. We get only the protections of the state that our rights make possible and no more. Trading freedom for security gets us neither.

Correction: In democracies, laws exist to grant power to the state, not to grant people freedom from the state. For example, I'm guessing that in your nearest democracy, there's probably not a law granting you the freedom to stand still for more than a minute or lie down for more than a minute. The people's freedom is a default.

Now, perhaps what you were thinking of was that some laws have exceptions (that might be phrased as affirmative defenses). But those aren't granting freedom to the people, they are restricting law enforcement. It's like a "tax refund" — the government isn't giving you their money, it's returning your own money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Funnily enough, if I am not violating parking regulations, or being a public issue, I am free to sleep in my car, or chill on a bench all day, in my home state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

remember; always throw a brick at ice

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

The only disappointing part of the article is that the 2 brown shirts continued to live.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How about letting them in the kitchen, and not letting them out? (until well done)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Or a walk in freezer to preserve for later.

Fake ICE agents, the other white meat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Only way. Fight back hard...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This is America, the most well armed nation in the world, push us far enough and that manilla folder gonna be full of holes.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Stand your ground

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

People need to start making this a fafo fatality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Chang Chang

Lol, really? Was no other name available?

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