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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That roughly the total on what was saved with doge.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

USA so shit they gotta pay people to make babies here

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

He should know that you can't buy that many diapers with $5k.

Unless he doesn't do his own diaper shopping I guess...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It really is a bummer to have such a legitimately retarded man just riding this country into the earths crust all Slim Pickens style.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

According to my halfassed search engine results, giving birth costs on average $18,000.

Just the cost of epidural, estimates range from $1000 to $3500 out of that cost.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (6 children)

As someone who lives in a country where giving birth is free that sounds absolutely insane to me. Are these birth costs in the US at least covered by common medical insurance or is it always that bad? It's a miracle that the US birth rate is one of the highest in the western world when the conditions are like this...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

After my son’s birth in 2006, we owed $12,000 after insurance. That was a single night’s stay in the hospital. Nothing out of the norm for the birth. We had to refinance the house the following year to pay off his and our daughter’s birth from 2005.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Daycare cost $2k a month

Is that for real? That's more than (many) private schools in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A 2 bedroom 1 bathroom house in Toronto costs more than a castle in france

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Well to be fair, that's what it costs in many European countries, too.

That's why many women don't work. The cost is basically as high as a low paying or part time job.

That's why everyone needs free daycare. That will generate a higher GDP for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The average cost of delivering a baby in the US, including pre- and post-delivery expenses, is roughly $18,865. However, this figure can vary significantly, just gotta come up with the other 14000 dollars lol do Amerikans know other countries don't gouge their citizens for everything including birth? Land of the fee home of the slave

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago

Based on data presented here: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-true-cost-of-raising-a-child

It takes a minimum of $200K USD to raise a child from birth to 18; which works out to ~$1K/mo.

If the Government were serious in wanting to address the aging population issue, the best way to tackle it would be to provide family funding at this level for a family’s first ~3 children.

Would it be expensive? Absolutely it would be in the initial term - but the increase in economic activity would arguably more than cover it in the long run.

Would it lead to inflation? Not if the costs were derived from taxes due to the government (which currently get dodged), rather than through national debt.

Would it lead to a positive outcome for the nation? Arguably yes, but there may also be unintended consequences to the negative. Human greed knows no bounds, after all.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My personsl hypothesis is that when couples are living in times of prosperity or growth, they can see a future and can comfortably grow a pension, then they are likely to consider having kids. This also happens to be the time they are getting a share of the wealth society generates.

In recession and uncertain times, couples tend to hold of on getting kids, and if they do get kids, they do it much later in life, when they have saved some money.

Of course couples need free time as well. If both parents need to work full time, it's gonna be a lot less palatable to have kids.

I think the global low fertility is the problem of infinite growth self correcting.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

monkey paw finger curls You get free healthcare coverage and half minimum wage for each child just for existing. However, you and your child must renounce your citizenship, forfeit your passport, and accept indentured servant status until you can buy back your citizenship after repaying the government child support in full.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This has been tried elsewhere I believe. It ends up being a gift for those who can afford kids anyway, and does not incease the number of couples deciding to have children. A small gift for upper middle class.

Better wealth distribution however; that works.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

It was done in Australia quite a few years back and widely mocked. There was a bit of a bump in "XBox babies", but it was mostly from the kind of people who don't understand that a one-off cash bonus spent on a bigger TV doesn't cover the costs of raising a kid.

That is Trump's demographic, but he's being very optimistic if he thinks these kids will be going to the polls while he's still alive.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Remember the stimulus checks that covered approximately 15 days' worth of rent?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Why would this in particular be important to him? I would think he wouldn't care

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

if the population declines that should make real estate cheaper, and trump and his friends own a ton of real estate

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

They're not making policy for people who can do math.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Adoption services are going to go wild! Hospitals too with infant detox programs. It's the new plasma!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

That looks more like 50k, 5k can easily go in pants pockets.

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