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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Self-driving in general has been overhyped by grifter tech bros like Elon and really shows the current limits of ML. Today, ML models are basically fuzzy, probabilistic functions that map inputs to outputs and are not capable of actual reasoning. There is a long tail of scenarios where a self-driving car will not generalize properly (i.e., will kill people). Throwing increasingly more data and compute at it won’t suddenly make it capable of reasoning like a human. Like other ML use cases, self-driving is a cool concept that can be put to good use under the right conditions, and can even operate mostly without human supervision. However, anyone claiming it’s safe to let today’s “self-driving” cars shuttle humans around at high speeds with no additional safeguards in place either has an unrealistic understanding of the tech or is a sociopath.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

IMHO, this was really a video about camera-only automatic emergency braking, not autonomous driving.

Lots of cars have AEB now since a lot of regulators are requiring it, but most use a combination of cameras and ultrasonic sonic. The top-of-the-line systems have LiDAR, cameras, and ultrasonic.

Tesla’s sensors lack redundancy. If the cameras are obstructed or can’t distinguish shapes, the vehicle can’t fall back to another system.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Coming here because I saw how downvoted this post was on Reddit lol. I love that it's triggering the Elon fanboys.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Maybe it was downvoted because of Mormon weirdo Mark Rober and not the content itself?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

Based on comments it's the Tesla stans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Is he a weirdo for being Mormon, or something else?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Seems like most of the downvotes are in the Telsa communities. The other communities upvoted it heavily.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago

Props to Benn Jordan for doing this a year ago on a slightly lower budget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DOd4RLNeT4

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Thank god it doesn’t have LIDAR sensors, much cheaper to repair the front this way

Tap for spoiler/s

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Bonus deep dive about using LiDAR to map out space mountain

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t exactly call that a deep dive.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The channel is for 5-year-olds, they would drown in a real deep dive

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Easy: „If you want to learn more check out our second channel where we explain in depth how we approached this topic, the technology used and what we learned.“

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Insane that the telsa drives into spaces its unsure of. So dangerous

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Sure, but their sensors will detect if you aren’t paying enough attention and report back to Tesla headquarters to get the lawyers ready before you can even get out of your car.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the thing that got me. I would have issues spotting that child through the fog as well, but I wouldn't have sped through it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

A Tesla stopped for me at a crosswalk and I insisted, you go on ahead, I ain’t trusting Musk Tech with my life.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Ahah Tesla is like a 2000s knock-off of good existing technology

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I’ve been shit-talking Elon’s (absolutely boneheaded) decision to intentionally eschew system-redundancy in systems that are critically responsible for human life for years now. Since he never missed an opportunity to show off his swastikar in MANY of his previous videos, I had assumed Mark Rober was a sponsored member of the alt-right intellectual dark web. But I’m pleasantly surprised to see that this video is a solid (WELL-justified) smear. 👌

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