this post was submitted on 09 Mar 2025
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Somehow I don't think that'll draw in customers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Goes to show what the priorities are

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That really makes me want to buy a Tesla. They must be great if all those cops have to protect them.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Those cops have more important places to be.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Bullies group with bigger bullies. More at ten.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Look at all those short fat slobs. I bet they have at least one punisher tattoo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Artists, where is the "SSwastikar" where the first two "s" are the Nazi SS logo, the third s is an actual swastika and the "T" is the Tesla logo? I can't draw for shit and the AI generator I use flagged it for inappropriate content...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Not what you asked for, still some kind of „art“ :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Rdx user spotted, automatically based

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

My dyslexic ass read that as "protesting" but my brain refused to think that was a sentence that made sense and I read it again and Yep. There it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

If I were the chief of Chicago PD and somebody called in a bomb threat I'd place, maybe, a patrol car or 2 nearby.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 17 hours ago

So i guess liberals are going to attack and burn certain businesses that they morally disagree with and in retaliation conservatives are going to start attacking and burning "woke" businesses. Eventually one side will emerge victorious and can rule over the ashes. Great plan America.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

I dont understand targeting the Tesla dealers. Short term, I would think insurance would be a revenue recognition bonanza. Longer term, if violence continues, insurance rates would increase, so there's potential expense drag there.

All I'm saying is that targeting the commodity is misplaced aggression.

Maybe I am thinking about it wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

I think that Tesla doesn't have a typical dealer network and they own their dealers which gave them a lot of trouble from the law.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

It's about ssending a message

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Tanking Tesla stock costs Musk a lot. Trashing unsold teslas means Tesla makes a lot of insurance claims. Short term that’s as good as a sale, well not really, the insurance only pays the replacement value which is less than the sell value, so it hurts their profits a bit, but it reduces stock and that does help a little. But if there’s a pattern of Tesla dealerships getting entire fleets destroyed, their insurance rates go up, which hurts their profits a lot more. So they’ll raise prices and sell fewer cars, which hurts their entire business.

Once or twice, it’s no big deal for Tesla. If the pattern keeps up then of going to start to squeeze them.

Musk has been a toxic asset for Tesla for quite some time, even before recent DOGE shit. I’m not sure why they don’t remove him. I get that he has majority shares, but there are still mechanisms for removing him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Individual acts will never overshadow an organized movement. But individual acts may stoke the public consciousness, though they can also stoke those in power. It's a tightrope to be sure.

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