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U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered a suspension of all military aid to Ukraine, escalating pressure on President Volodymyr Zelensky mere days after a heated exchange in the Oval Office cast doubt on U.S. support for Kyiv.

A senior Defense Department official told Bloomberg that all U.S. military assistance to Ukraine is on hold until Trump determines that Ukrainian leaders are making a genuine effort toward peace.

The pause affects not only future aid but also weapons already in transit, including shipments on aircraft and ships, as well as equipment awaiting transfer in Poland.

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Edit: changed source from Bloomberg to Kyiv Independent b/c there's no paywall and more detail in the story.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 15 hours ago (36 children)

until Trump determines that Ukrainian leaders are making a genuine effort toward peace.

They are literally shooting every Russian they spot on their soil, how is that not making a genuine effort toward peace?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 15 hours ago

He means "capitulate to the enemy"

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Since he can't do this and needs congress' help, why aren't they stopping him? Why are they all bending over backwards to please Putin?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 13 hours ago

Because the only meaningful political move for Republicans today is to follow Trump. If they push back they get cut from the pack and lose support.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago

Because congress is dominated by the oligarch sycophants as well.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

Just as his master told him.

The US media still does not dare to call Trump a Russian agent, despite him showing all symptoms.

There has been no single Russian attempt to destroy the US being as successful as putting their own agent into the White House, right into the Oval Office.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 15 hours ago

He's a Russian asset. How is this a surprise?

[–] [email protected] 260 points 21 hours ago (22 children)

The U.S. Military and the CIA must know what a threat to the country Trump is, right?

......right?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

As far as I'm aware, the military, in the best case, will simply refuse to follow unlawful orders. There are formal processes to do so. That's part of military culture and law. Whether that system will hold up to Trump is unknown. When he issues unlawful orders, will soldiers simply refuse to comply? Unknown.

But one thing is for sure. It's not part of military culture to actively resist. There is no formal process for that to be protected or OK. That's simply insurrection and rebellion.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

The military that he just dismissed the leadership of and replaced with his own people, and the CIA that's directed by his people?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Here's the pickle though. Wouldn't it be reasonable if another administration get in power and then need to purge all these positions of pro trump people?

Like what happens next? it's such a bleak world now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t it be reasonable if another administration get in power and then need to purge all these positions of pro trump people?

Oh no! You have a great point for horror fans there.

I'd even say, it probably is somewhat necessary in order to resume administration. What a beautiful, postfactual dilemma:

The Reps fear an ideological, systemic witch hunt, which they use as an excuse to replace government workers. The new workers are ideologically aligned with the Reps, encouraged to assist the dismantling of non-Rep institutions and carry out the King's will above and beyond the law.

Now when votes swing the other way, the new administration kind of has to revert some of this damage to assume functioning.

Which is where the circle closes; the prophecy fulfills itself. Now the Reps have evidence for their previously baseless claims. The whole system is locked in a back-and-forth mud wrestling of replacing workers based on ideology.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

That's the problem with the two-party system in the USA, in a full democracy this dynamic wouldn't happen. This is the achilles heel of american democracy and the downfall seems to have begun.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

his own people,

of which are wildly incompetent

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 19 hours ago

"Do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ;that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that you take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which you are about to enter: So help you God?"

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

Ok. Part 1 is done. Part 2 & 3 (order doesn't matter) is that Trump ends sanctions and then stages a massive false flag attack that they then blame on Ukrainian Extremists upset over the ending of support to enact a full police state.

Part 4: ???

Part 5: profit

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Part 4: USA falls apart

Part 5: China profits

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yes, he'll set the ~~Reichstag~~ Capitol on fire and go from there.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

This is what I hope happens next: Ukraine wins anyway. European politicians that still weren’t sure about defending themselves without the US will be emboldened not to rely on America anymore. Europe as a whole becomes stronger and much less willing to tolerate Trump’s obnoxious demands, and see him as the weak puppet that he is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Can we, as a society, label anyone who things otherwise as a traitor? Any politician against, or even dragging their feet, immediately written off, perhaps even deported from yhe continent?

Please?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

At some point, Europe has to start wondering whether it's really such a good thing to have US military bases all over their continent.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 17 hours ago

Build up the EU military. Kick the US out. Free airbases.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago

Weak puppet with strong army. What makes anyone think stopping aid to Ukraine is all he can do. The sanctions against Russia are going to be lifted next, and if necessary, the aid is going to Russia. Europe has enough power against Russia, but not against Russia + the US.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (9 children)

Is there a historical precedent for punishing the defender for daring to successfully resist invasion by a third country?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Economic sanctions on the early RSFSR after the Bolsheviks defeated the English, French, Italian, USA coalition that invaded them in the Russian Civil War.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Does it matter at all? Trump is compromised and is actively working for Putin. This is transparent and not being denied. Is there precedent for a puppet to do whatever he's told by his master? Yes, lots.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Let's be very clear, it's not just Trump, but the ENTIRE GOD DAMN administration that has been, and is, being put into place. Hegseth already told our intelligence teams to stop looking into Russia.

If Trump was luigied tomorrow, an entire government is now in place to allow whatever they want to happen, to happen. It wouldn't even matter if he was gone.

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