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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 minutes ago

I know that my country - The Netherlands imports a lot from the US, so i am trying not to. Ditched all my Meta accounts, closed Amazon account/prime and Kindle, moved away from Google to several other services, stopped several streaming services and when we buy products from the supermarket actively check wheter products are from the US, and replace them with local/EU/Canadian products.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

And so: Hello Lemmy! Here I am! Left 'socials' like reddit, dropped hotmail and google accounts ...... i'ts not much but it's start

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 49 minutes ago

Welcome, new one!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

Kick them out of Ramstein.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 57 minutes ago

Migrating cloud servers to European hosters. Give EU money to improve/build a linux desktop. Use that desktop in government, schools, universities... (instead of Windows). Fork Firefox. Host fediverse services and use them where the governments use Twitter / TikTok / Insta.

Harder: Mandate for mobile phones with a user installable OS (Cyanogen etc.) Force tech companies to provide total transparency about data usage. Cancel any safe harbor agreements.

In the end, everything the Open Source crowd wished for.

Btw, I'd have no issues with American / Russian / China hosted open source stuff when we can review what it does. Ah, ok, a "european code review agency" might be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

What exactly does the US produce that is imported into the EU? Consumer market, of course, where one person has choice in the matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 minutes ago

That's like saying you import cars because they're big in American culture.

The differences are similar. American ones are large, vainglorious, and for purposes the user will never encounter.

European ones are precision engineered to the function required.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAKO

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta

Beretta is French and Glock is Austrian.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Here's to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

Not to mention Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Fuck us up, y'all!

Sincerely,

Ashamed American

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago

Another terrible situation like Brexit - where the voices of many reasonable people are ignored. Feel free to come to Europe any time

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don't get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his ~~clowns~~ clan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

intellectual property laws are idiotic laws.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It's due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.

With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.

We need an Europan open source stack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

What kind of stack are you thinking of?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal

Edit because I'm getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675

Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:

ANNEX I

Union response measures pursuant to Article 8

[...]

  1. The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.

This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

If you want to learn how to do successful boycott campaigns, you should look for the BDS Movement, that has worked to spread awareness to boycott companies affiliated with the illegal Israeli occupation and genocide against Palestinians.

And no surprise, you will find many US companies in there. Also it should come as no surprise, that the US wants to outlaw even talking about boycotts in many states, as well as corrupt European politicians like in Germany attacking the notion of boycotting companies involved with brutal crimes against humanity.

We need to join efforts in reducing the economic power of Imperialism, whichever shape it takes.

https://bdsmovement.net/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Awesome. I hadn't heard of this.

Quick look at their website shows they've actually achieved some pretty great things.

This is a great example. You can't just stop buying everything. Boycotting specific companies with specific demands is the way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Sodastream? What did they do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago

Sodastream used to have a factory in the West Bank where they employed hundreds of Palestinians. Because of boycott pressure, they moved and hundreds of Palestinian workers lost their jobs.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/03/27/471885452/when-500-palestinians-lose-their-jobs-at-sodastream-whos-to-blame

BDS only cares about hurting Israel, no matter the consequences to Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago

Sodastream have a nasty habit of looking for a vulnerable, oppressed population, building a factory on illegally stolen land, hiring a few of the locals for peanuts and then screaming that they are "helping" them.

Did it to the Palestinians in the West Bank and when that failed relocated it in land confiscated from the Bedouins. It's in an artificial forced resettlement area where Bedouins have been forced to live in an Israeli-constructed town and industrial park.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It is an Israeli company that used to operate a plant in illegally occupied territory in the Westbank as well as mistreating Palestinian workers. It moved to a factory in the Negev desert inside the 1967 borders. The new factory however is part of displacing Palestinian Bedouins that live in the Negev. Also the mistreatment of Palestinian workers continued.

Ultimately of course all Israeli companies also pay corporate taxes which finance the Israeli executive such as Army, Police forces and Intelligence.

https://bdsmovement.net/news/%E2%80%9Csodastream-still-subject-boycott%E2%80%9D
https://www.cjpme.org/fs_244

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

It's an Israel-based company https://www.cjpme.org/fs_244

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