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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it's valve's linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Vaultwarden is the opensourced version of Bitwarden. One of the employees of Bitwarden is allowed to maintain it in their own time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Bitwarden premium is crazy cheap anyway. I have proton in limited and still get bitwarden premium.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

+1 to Vaultwarden! I've been self-hosting it for the family and it works great.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

I use KeePassX. there are android, linux and macos clients. i sync them between devices securely using Mega

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

keepass plus syncthing works well for me. I sync between linux, android, windows.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Depends on what you mean by "good". I use KeePass. Works for me. Open source and free.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.

Even if you agree with Proton's positions it's clear that Andy is just tanking the company's image with such rookie leadership mistakes.

Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I would be fine if they just setup some kind of mirror so their posts would show up across different platforms. The biggest issue with then not using mastodon is just not being informed of what is going on. They don't need to engage with people on mastodon just setup some kind of bridge.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Everyone doing social media posts to multiple networks from a single app. This is a BS excuse from Proton. Very disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Yup, no sorry. Only bots left in reddit, have fun!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

I'm so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad..It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

due to limited ressources

Is it that hard to post the same thing on various social media? Maybe it is, I wouldn't know. But that sounds like a shitty excuse.

It looks like they're not up to date on X tho, hopefully they drop that shit. And they're on Bluesky, which, if not Mastodon, is a little bit better I guess.

I really don't get the hidden idea behind leaving Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They are still on Bluesky, but they are not active anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I only use their Drive, I need a privacy focused alternative with a browser version in case I can't convince my family to download an app, any recommendations?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Filen.io is decent. Client is open source and storage is locally encrypted. They claim to use zero knowledge tech on their end.

Additionally, look into rclone to upload and automatically encrypt data to cloud providers. This way, cloud providers can't access your data regardless.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I really dislike these commercial "private" solutions to surveilance issues we have but people always seem to prefer them because of strong marketing around.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

What ashame, I thought the CEO should be poked in the eye with a blunt stick for his Trump support but I would've kept with Proton if the business and his personal views were kept seperate

It appears this is no longer the case, at least proton provides a lot of decent services I don't mind abusing for free now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Not that they'll care but I bought for two years but will find something else when that runs out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nothing of value has been lost

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don't use Mastodon.)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Proton recently got shot in the foot when one of their board members said some stuff that made it sound like he was somehow not certain that fascists are bad for privacy. The guy responded and clarified and made some good points...and still very clearly did not realize or did not feel it important to mention or even imply that fascists are very definitely bad for privacy. This is still post-record-scratch for Proton.

So leaving what's basically the only social media of the future, such as it is, and sticking it out in the garbage heaps, makes two data points that make a line that goes in the direction of "definitely going to enshittify". It's possible this could be wrong, because two data points isn't huge, but these are also things that were extremely easy to get right, and require an oddly large amount of effort to fuck up like they have.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Thanks for the reply! I was only aware of the CEO's X comments regarding Trump's politics. I JUST moved away from Google and have been quite happy with Proton, especially Mail and Pass.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To me, the federated social network (Fediverse, which Mastodon is one portal into) offers some distinct advantages for pluralism. No single entity can control the whole discourse. When you don't agree with your mods, you can go elsewhere without losing your connections with people: just move to a different instance.

Furthermore it's not controlled by corporations, so there is no incentive of trying to spread things like the plague just to get you addicted and make as much money.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

In practice the design of the Fediverse leaves some problems open (notably, moving between servers comes at a cost to the online identity you built, and getting bootstrapped if you don't have real-life connections who are interested is more difficult) and it even creates some interesting problems of its own. But all in all it's better already than the mono-idea, "there is one norm everyone should stick to" culture we see on commercial offerings.

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