I predict that nothing will change, we will carry on breathing polluted air, the situation will get worse but still, nothing will change.
this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2023
252 points (96.0% liked)
World News
32316 readers
963 users here now
News from around the world!
Rules:
-
Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc
-
No NSFW content
-
No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
Germans would say "Tja", shrug and then drive with their unnecessarily big car to the bakery which is around the corner to buy some Mettwurstbrötchen. Sitting then with their friends at a Stammtisch over a beer and talk angrily about how people need to change something before they fall into bed and forget about it.
Sound more like the U.S. than Germany - Germany has the €49/month public transport ticket, relatively good public transport offerings and a green party that has the best election results of the western industrial countries. Of course shutting down nuclear power plants didn't do them any favours regarding pollution.
Better window dressing. Still not doing enough.
49? Damn, it's like €90 in Stockholm.
Tja
We will vote for the same people, keep buying iPhones, and get distracted by stupid shit. As is customary.
Car drivers:
Wood stoves are a major problem. As soon as it gets cold in Germany, air pollution rises from below 5µg/m^3 to 20-100 µg/m^3 and stays there for months (in this particular area).
Wood stove smells good so acceptable air pollution.
I know you're making a joke but this is how the majority of people view things like air pollution.
Does this mean we can go back to 2 stroke engines then? That would be amazing, I mean not for the planet but I love that smell so much…
The sound on the other hand..
Absolutely.
Dang. In wildfire season here in western Canada, my air filter gets brought out well before the 100 mark.
Somebody should tell them about the toasty glow of atomic energy.
As someone who lives in a wood-heated house, what do you suggest I do? I'd rather not freeze to death and I can't afford any other heating options
Keep doing what you need to. Don't feel bad for living. If you have the ability to switch them consider it but realistically it needs to be pushed into law to ban wood burning furnace. Individuals changing isn't enough.
#mega corporations
[...] Our food is unfit to eat, our air is unfit to breathe...
Luckily the world isn't going crazy or we live in a depression or the Russians are doing something or we don't go out anymore and the world is getting smaller.
Hot damn, that's a movie I haven't seen in a while. It started off crazy and went even more nuts. It's like Fox News used it as a training manual. Soon we'll probably get a Mao Tse Tung Hour, too.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.
Overlay it with a map of electricity emissions and it will fit nicely with a few small exceptions (like any small country neighbouring Poland, they will have bad air regardless of their own production).
So, I live in Western Washington and was wondering if this is actually one place where the USA wins over Europe and... I'm currently breathing 4.5 micrograms of PM2.5. So equal to living in Denmark. Success!
Let's spot-check... wait... https://www.iqair.com/us/uk/england/london/putney-weimar-street London is only at 9 micrograms. I guess that's still double mine. Let's be fair and pick the worst part in Seattle: https://www.iqair.com/us/usa/washington/seattle/overlook-at-magnolia still 5.8 micrograms. Let's try one more time in Germany, It seems like any place in Germany will be above a 10. https://www.iqair.com/us/germany/nordrhein-westfalen/koln/rodenkirchen it's 5.
So maybe this is a time when Western Washington is on par with Europe? Is IQAir not a great source?
Probably due to the relative density of emitters
I live in the middle of nowhere in the Southeast, and apparently my area has a score of 12.
That's just the whole world
Question is, how much do you trust the Guardian to do a proper research.
They claim no area of Sweden has twice the recommended value, but there are clearly orange/red areas near the very south near Helsingborg.
Are you thinking of Copenhagen?
I was thinking of Malmø with i said Helsingborg, which is further north ofc. Copenhagen is big (by Nordic standards), cramped and old. No wonder it has worse air.
All of Skåne is still below 10 (less than double the recommended maximum)
Why is it so bad in Northern Italy?
That's where all the Italian industry is at.
I was wondering if the alps also contribute by trapping the smog there
Probably a bit. It's the Po valley after all. But it's mostly the density of industry.