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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But what if i need to commute 600 miles to work and back every day and on top of that once a year I drive a million miles to my vacation home? Checkmate!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I used to love to bike but I moved to an area with steep hills and it’s too high effort. Maybe fine for exercise but I always used them for transport and you can’t arrive at work or a music lesson drenched in sweat. Wish they would install those hill lifts some countries have. I walk now. Would love an electric but the expense makes it much more painful when it’s stolen (and every one of my regular bikes has eventually been stolen).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I live in rural Norway up in the mountain side. We have wind, snow, ice and rain like hell, and I have ~150 elevation to get to the main road to get anywhere.

... I'm still considering getting a bike for all the mentioned benefits.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (52 children)

I dare you to travel on your own bicycle in the depths of winter across the USA in the same timeframe as a car.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Eh, I did that for a couple years in Utah and it was largely fine. When the snow got nasty, I took the bus.

That was back when my commute was 10 miles (16km) with a segregated bike path the whole way. My new commute is more than double that, so I drive. But if we weren't so car centric, things would be more compact and I wouldn't have this nasty commute.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

But demonstrate the incontrovertible need for a car during one's regular commute through an average modern city. And I'm even offering the main exception - busses and taxis/ride sharing/whatever the current nomenclature, as I consider public transportation to be its own independent thing, unrelated to Cars.

I think the people who would enjoy such a venture via bike have or are already doing it, the rest of us would just like to be able to ride the bike through the city without having to play Frogger with three lanes filled with enraged lumps of cortisol *wrapped in two tons of steel and various other such substances.

Edit: added * to further drive home the viscerality of my desire.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The reason you can't is much more about infrastructure than weather, especially within cities

Source: I live in Scandinavia and everyone bikes even when it's cold

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