Asklemmy

Friedrich Nietzsche had a lot to say about this.

Suffering is part of what gives life meaning. If you don't know how hard it can get, you don't know how good it can get as well. And there's good suffering out there. Physical exercise, challenging yourself, testing your potential to see what you can actualize are all sufficient things to do in this life. You don't know what you can do until you try to do it.

Then you have to consider things like morality and knowledge.

We humans (and specifically old, white humans) tend to subject others to a certain kind of suffering through the patriarchy. That's not right. Every human should have a chance to live a good life in contrast to suffering. And the ethical pursuit of morality doesn't have to stop with our specific species of life. Humans also subject hundreds of other biological species to a life of slavery, torture, and death. It is a noble cause to bring freedom to those species, just as it is to bring freedom to Palestinians or Ukrainians or Hong Kongers. Their potential is limited by human made constructs which can just as easily be deconstructed.

Also, the universe is infinite (as far as we can tell). There are many machinations ongoing that cause certain events to happen. Why? Why was my local village destroyed by a rock flying in from space? Why is my town in Texas experiencing freezing temperatures when that's never occurred before? How long do I have to get to higher ground until the tsunami that earthquake caused reaches the coast? It's in our interest to learn about the natural world due to the hazards it brings to our lives, of which reality could end prematurely. Humans are also curious. Why is our universe the way it is? Why can't we live in a 4D reality? Can we even grasp reality? How do I know something caused something else? How confident can we be in those judgements?

The human condition since The Enlightenment has meant we've shifted our epistemological focus away from us towards the greater world around us. If we no longer have an Almighty God which has all the answers and tells us what's good and ill, who does that now? We do!

God is dead. But morality, knowledge, and the good life of flourishing are not.

You've got to outlive your enemies

The point is there is no point. No higher order. We're an accident of physics.

Existentialism is the branch of philosophy that deals with these problems, I think you would have an interest in it. I struggled with these kind of questions a lot when I was in my 20s (what is the point? Does anything even matter?). I read a lot and hitchhikers guide to the galaxy was the first book that really eased this anxiety for me. There probably is no point in living, it’s fine. Everyone decides on what they are going to do based on their circumstances in life. In the end the universe may not exist again, so what, we were all perfectly fine before it existed and who knows, maybe everything that made your conscious possible will be able to exist again in another universe, you won’t have memories of your past life, at least you shouldn’t have anyway.

I write a little and one of the first stories I wrote was about a being that created the universe from nothing because it was bored, I made a character narrate later on and his thought process was along the lines of “if you existed in this universe, who’s to say you won’t again in another? Whatever random events lead to life being self aware could happen again. The universe could expand until there is no energy left and then retract until the next big bang does it all again. It may not happen for the next trillion cycles but eventually something could happen again like it is now. Maybe it’s all happened before and we just don’t remember it.”

So, even if you don’t find a purpose. You are not alone in your journey. It’s part of being human, to have awareness of your own existence but powerless to know as to why you exist. Some people just can’t handle those kind of truths, it scares them stupid and that’s why you get things like hedonism, flip it the other way and you get nihilism. Despair can come from both.

My own personal thoughts on it are:

You are alive and you are able to do as you please. You always have a choice. If you make your life a journey of accumulating a larger number than others then so be it, I am happier without playing any number games. I want to see things and meet people and interact with them. I love petting cats and dogs, I love ducks. I enjoy the fact that my tongue evolved enough so that I can enjoy the taste of good food and tasty bourbon. I like to know that I am helping someone or something else not be scared of existing, like if my cat is worried because of a noise, I can soothe her nerves and she doesn’t have to feel fear anymore. I am still able to see the good in humanity even if I don’t have much faith in the world currently. There are problems with society as it currently stands in the west but if everyone can find it in themselves to be honest with each other and help one another out then the world will be somewhere worth living in, no matter how short that time is in the grand scheme of things. One day the sun will explode, will the universe care about some billionaire’s wealth? No. Nor should anyone now, if that’s what they choose then so be it. What really matters is not what you do for yourself but what you do for everything else.

/schizo rant

IIRC, the nihilist position is that there is no point, and the way I've chosen to interpret that is that it means we are free to personally define the point at any time, and for any length of time, as we please. The pointlessness lets us custom design life to fit our needs and desires, if we can minimize getting caught up in "you should do this and be that" external mentalities that may be incompatible with our natures. This seems like one of many correct paths to life satisfaction.

Of course, part of the battle is discovering what's in your(you in general not you specifically) nature to do and be, and then having the courage to see it through no matter what influences around you are saying or doing that may contradict it. The other part being unlearning incompatible mindsets that may have been fed into your mind when you were younger; authority figures anywhere in, and in any stage of, life are in dangerous positions to cause long term harm to impressionable, trusting minds, which is why I personally focus more on the "figure" and less on the "authority" part of "authority figure" when I'm dealing with people in those positions.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" - Aristotle or whoever actually said it.

Everything happens after you die. Who told you nothing does?

To enjoy the chemical pleasures that life has to offer, in its fullest.

The point is petting dogs and the warmth of their smile, crying and laughing at movies and books and music and art of all forms, its supporting your fellow being, its finally cracking some problem that you've been trying to solve for ages.

As others have said, if nothing we do matters then the only thing that matters is what we do. Be kind, seek joy, seek experiences, punch fascists, pet animals. Be kind.

Whatever you want. Find something that brings you joy and try to do more of that. If it's important to you to leave a legacy, try to connect to others and be in their lives. Try to make good, meaningful changes to the world, even if they're small. Our existences are only so long, and worth enjoying.

Plenty happens after you die. You're just not there for it.

The meaning of life is to have a life full of meaning.

I find meaning by doing drugs and hooking up with randoms from growlr.

Nothing happens to you after you die. The pieces to pick up and carry on is on those we leave behind, if we are remembered well. If not, the pieces to pick up and throw out is on them too, anyway.

If nothing happens after we die, it's the same thing as that nothing happens in a movie after it's ended. I hope that the character I was will still exist in peoples' mind even after I go. I've recently started to embrace that "All the world's a stage" thing a lot and lot more, recently.

"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts,"

It's a sandbox survival game. So, the first step is to survive to the point where you can start making choices, the next step is to figure out what you want your goals to be. Then, the hard part. How will you achieve those goals?

There is no inherent goal or point in life. You get to decide. You get to give your life meaning.

It can be hard. Sometimes, material conditions like poverty, working conditions or social pressure make it hard to find meaning. Sometimes, you can loose the meaning, like when you loose a loved one. A good society should help empower all people to give themselves meaning. Sadly this is not the direction many countries are taking nowadays.

But despite everything: You are ultimately empowered to create meaning for yourself. Nobody can truly take that away from you.

Try playing disco elysium

To make evil men and women powerful.

Cat videos.

You are the Universe experiencing itself.

Welcome to adulthood.

The question you ask is universal. The answer much less so and in that difference lies the journey of life.

For some it's about amassing as much wealth as possible, for others it's about cementing a legacy. The pursuit of happiness is a common approach and to serve is yet another. Some seek solace in religion, others in hedonism. Some spend a lifetime searching, others exist and take in the experience.

For me it's about making the world a better place.

Its something for us to decide. It may very well be meaningless but in the end I would rather exist than not exist overall although I would not mind existence being over as it will be someday. Hope if does before it becomes to awful.

I guess everybody will come up with different answers to that.

To me, saying "there is nothing after death" is a simplified model. It asks you to live in the here-and-now, to live in the moment, because that makes you productive today.

Of course, the world won't end when you die. You will leave an impact on the world, kind of a track. Like, when water flows over a landscape long enough, it leaves a river bed. That will stay, even after the water subsides.

So in some sense, death might be your end, but it's not the end. I don't know whether that helped you.

There is no point. This life is what you get. It's up to you to make something of it.

All I know is that I'd rather be here than not be here. It doesn't get much deeper than that for me.

people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

Why not? Happiness comes from what happens while we're still alive. It's ""just"" a question of finding those things.

Because life is it's own joy, and being alive the greatest gift. The loneliness will pass and return, the work grind you down as a song heard in passing will lift you up, the endless obligations are part of being an inherently social species. But, whether human or crocodilian, garden slug or spider, there is pleasure in the warm sun and a full belly, in waking from a good sleep and stretching whatever muscles your ancestors bequeathed. It's only those who demand that, somehow, the universe give them some cosmic purpose -- we, who are less than a virus floating around a sparkling grain of sand on an endless beach -- who cannot find enough in life to be happy.

First existential crisis? There's isn't one. Once you make peace with that fact then you can overcome the existential dread of oblivion and move on content in the understanding that nothing you do matters in the long run, and focus your energy on something else.