Is KDE Neon still broken? For awhile it was the only Ubuntu based distro I'd recommend. Yes, I know about Mint but no HDR or Wayland.
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Yeah it's not really a secret
I got a notification about it when I upgraded from 20.04 LTS that they will only serve it as a snap package.
My work cannot manage permissions well so I cannot remove snap Firefox cos its in use by another user.
Meanwhile current snap version of Firefox is crashing on my profile
This is why i switched to Debian. It's 99% of Ubuntu, without the crap.
I must have hit that 1% last time. I assembled a new PC, wanted to install debian and could not get a login screen after installation. At that point I wanted something that just works. I installed Xubuntu and had the machine ready right away.
I.... I.... I don't know why I haven't done that myself. (Am now on NixOS btw) but for work maybe I ask for Debian cloud box.
For work, you could also try Fedora Workstation or Linux Mint Debian Edition. Debian is pretty barebones, but if that isnt a bother then do whatever.
I like gnome, but i guess i could look at fedora.
I would like to stay with apt as package manager so the package names stay the same to what I know, or is yum/dnf/etc gonna use the same for most?
Definitely not you, they absolutely do this with snaps and have for a while. This was the main reason I stopped using Ubuntu.
Yeah, there's an entire page bitching about it on Linux Mint's website.
Solve the problem. Drop ubunutu
Yes. That was the last straw for me. I switched to debian stable, and haven't looked back since
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At this point, why is anyone using Ubuntu for desktop? You have soooo many options
Unfortunately it's my only option at work because my employer wants the security of Ubuntu pro
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I suspect that what's happened is you installed the apt version, then at some point upgraded it and there was a version in the main repo that had a higher version number and installed the snap version. If two repositories both have a package with the same name, and no other rules in place, the higher version number wins.
If that is the case, you need to pin the firefox package to the mozilla repository. You can find more details here: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConfiguration
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They started doing that in a couple of years back. Saw quite a bit of backlash in the Linux news media at the time.
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It is one of the reasons many people turn away from Ubuntu.
Not secretly, no.
But it's not obvious either. When I say 'apt install firefox', specially after adding their repository to sources.list, I'd expect to get a .deb from mozilla. Silently overriding my commands rubs me in a very wrong way.
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Jesus Christ this is Windows-tier insane computing behaviour from Ubuntu. Fuck Ubuntu.
Switch to Debian and you'll be fine :)
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