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I'm dumbstruck as to what to do. The US is building literal concentration camps, and none of my co-workers care at all.

In fairness, I work in healthcare with an almost exclusively cishet white population who are financially well off.

Many of them espouse to be Christians, and no one cares at all that the American government is following the exact playbook from Nazi Germany.

What do you do? How do you make people care before it's too late?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You have more control over your attitude than over politics, or other peoples' opinions. Don't exhaust yourself and don't strain your relationships uselessly. They want to bring you down and push you out. I usually reject stoicism, but this is a good time to be stoic and keep your energy reserves, and your attitude, fresh.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I had some very similar feelings after the 2020 election cycle and COVID stuff. This VSauce video came out around the same time and, unironically I guess, helped convince me of some stuff I'd started to realize with regards to changing people's minds. https://youtu.be/_ArVh3Cj9rw

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

exclusively cishet white population

Red State? Then don't bother, nobody would care.

Look up the specific area around your workplace and trump's margin of victory, and you'll see just how fucked it is.

Preaching in a red area is a waste of time, I'm telling ya.

Edit: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/us/elections/2024-election-map-precinct-results.html

I think this works. Look it up.

Edit 2: Oh wow, my Precinct is more than +50 Harris. Go Philly! I'm glad to know that if a nazi is walking around doing the salute, they getting them ass beat.

Edit 3: HOLY FUCKING SHIT. I looked up my old place in NYC, and wtf a RED WAVE. +20 felon, +30 felon change from 2020. Jesus Fucking Christ. Glad I'm outta that hell.

NYC is so cooked, especially Brooklyn.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've never done something on the scale I'm describing, so this is mostly just speculation, but I hope it could be useful.

First of all, find the people who do care. Talk with them. Make a local antifascist group in a secure messenger (Matrix/XMPP, or at the very least Signal), or join an existing org that you disagree with the least (don't be afraid of the word "socialist" if you stumble upon them). Do not discuss anything illegal, as it could spell trouble for everyone - you live in an (increasingly) authoritarian country with a wide range of tools to repress you. Keeping it legal at least makes it less likely.

Now that you have a support network, you can start reaching out. Until/unless your organization gains serious traction, unite over common goals instead of squabbling over your differences. DO NOT guilt anyone for being financially well off, voting for the wrong candidate, believing in stupid things, etc. Find people who are somewhat unhappy or unsure about concentration camps. Try convincing them that concentration camps are bad - it probably would be easier if they are on the fence already or if they are being unjustly treated themselves. Show compassion. Do not be condescending or use the words that may trigger them (Nazism, etc), instead appeal to humanity and empathy to specific people who are being repressed. Bring some examples of unjust repression with you. Do not overdo it - you don't (yet) have to agree on anything except that these concentration camps are bad. Propose to do something together - it can be small at first, like calling your representative or organizing a picket - common action builds connections and mutual understanding.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

To help you find an answer i'll return you the same question: why did you not care about US building concentration camps and following the fascist playbook until now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment_and_arrest_of_Julian_Assange

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What a fucking stupid, useless reply.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

less stupid than the one you just made

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[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The Nazis started under MUCH different circumstances. Also constantly comparing everyone and everything to "Nazis" makes you sound hysterical.

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