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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's a chinese company, where else would they store the data?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I think its called a data lake, so they don't "store" it, its rather floating around there πŸ€ͺ

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Antarctica, clearly.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

Chinese company uses servers located in China. More news at 11.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I swear people do not understand how the internet works.

Anything you use on a remote server is going to be seen to some degree. They may or may not keep track of you, but you can't be surprised if they are. If you run the model locally, there is no indication it is sending anything anywhere. It runs using the same open source LLM tools that run all the other models you can run locally.

This is very much like someone doing surprised pikachu when they find out that facebook saves all the photos they upload to facebook or that gmail can read your email.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

The telephone company knows your phone number!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Chinese company does what American companies have done for 25+ years now!

Is it time for REAL data privacy laws or are we just gonna keep playing whack-a-mole with Chinese tech companies that get us nowhere?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Any ChatAI logs your keystrokes and your inputs to work and update their LLM. The PP and TOS is the same and even better as those from the US competitors. DeepSeek is OpenSource

Anyway I prefer Andisearch and its PP, the best of all these big tech AIs.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah and ChatGPT doesn’t

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I trust DeepSeek Open Source if it allows me to copy and review it. I don't trust ~~Open~~AI like ChatGPT.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Yes? Is it a surprise that a Chinese company stores it's data on a Chinese server?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

This is my total lack of surprise.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I feel safer knowing that my data is not in a country where the company can use it against me

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

I'm safer knowing that my data is safe at home.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

haha, now do openai

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

no sh*t! now tell me, not that it's correct, but what does the chinese intelligence apparatus can do to me vs. what the u.s. intelligence apparatus (which has been collecting intelligence about me since i'm alive) can do to me?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

As a queer woman in the US, I currently care infinitely more what the US gov and companies track about me than what China does.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

Nope, At least we can check DeepSeek's source code

Unlike OpenAI..... oops I meant ClosedAI

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I run it locally on a 4080, how do they capture my keystrokes?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not excusing Chinese companies but everyone does the same shit. I bet a lot of US companies that behave the same or worse will be looking for trade barriers to protect their business so their interests will be stoking fear of Chinese competitors. I don't really give a shit which country is doing it, I am not buying what they are selling.

US companies have a stranglehold on government, education and business and are getting access to my families data despite my personal objections. Far more concerned about that than a Chinese service I have no intention of using.

Deepseek can at least be self hosted if you want AI in your life. I can happily live without it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

And? This anti China propaganda is falling apart.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Your devices keyboard app has been collecting all of your keystrokes.

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[–] [email protected] 341 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (87 children)

DeepSeek does the same things that OpenAI does, but it's a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This "China's AI is taking your data and that's bad" is shockingly similar to "TikTok is taking your data and that's bad". Lots of US counterparts do the same thing, but I don't see (as much) media coverage about that.

Don Draper: "no no no, everyone else's cigarettes are dangerous. Lucky Strikes are... toasted."

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