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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Fuck Proton than.

What's a good alternative I can use?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

It seems the guy keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself. Sigh...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 hours ago

By the “little guys” he means himself.

By himself he means corporate CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 hours ago

I migrated my custom domains to Tuta and canceled my Proton subscription as a result of all of this.

And Proton had fucking better give me a prorated refund.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

That’s a nice one to rub Andy’s nose in. I’ll put that one in my cancellation note.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I checked archive and it wasn’t saved to the wayback machine so I added it in case proton deletes it. https://web.archive.org/web/20250115163936/https://proton.me/blog/trump-control-nsa-privacy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

Fucking pathetic

[–] [email protected] -2 points 48 minutes ago

Who gives a shit? Proton is one of the best companies when it comes to privacy, why should I care about the CEO's political views?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell

Mullvad then I guess?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

One of my favourite things about using an email relay is how easy it was to change email addresses. Unfortunately I was changing to Proton. Fortunately I was using my own domain! Unfortunately I pre-paid 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Same! And there's not a good email alternative that's as popular

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

Tuta is decent. I have been using them for a long time every since proton tried gas-lighting everyone about javascript based browser interface being secure for e2ee.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 hours ago

How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Little guys? Like Coca Cola?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago

I hope you all see thru Trump's Big Tech bullshit. It's not to reign them in to make America competitive - or whatever other horseshit he spews out of that asshole he calls a mouth. It's to get rid of the others so that he controls and censors the fuck out of the only avenue of social communication like his handlers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

🤦 Can we get this in actual text or maybe a cool link to the actual content for those of us who need it for accessibility & the rest of us who don't like trying to read pixelated garbage? Screenshots of text are such a scourge. 😭

[–] [email protected] 3 points 57 minutes ago

Jonah Aragon @[email protected] Hugely disappointing to see Andy Yen (Proton CEO) tout the Republican Party as the ones standing up for the little guys"

Andy Yen @andyyen Great pick by @realDonald Trump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

Donald J, Trump GrealDonaldTrump I am pleased to nominate Gail Slater as Assistant Attorney General for the Antitrust Division at the Department of Justice. Big Tech has run wild for years, stifling competition in our most innovative sector and, as we all know, using its market power to crack down on the rights of so many Americans, as well as those of Little Tech! I was proud to fight these abuses in my First Term, and our Department of Justice's antitrust team will continue that work under Gail's leadership. Gail previously served at the FTC, in my National Economic Council and, most recently, advising Vice President-Elect JD Vance in his Senate office. Gail has also worked in the private sector, in Media at FOX, and in the Tech sector at Roku, In her new role, Gail will help ensure that our competition laws are enforced, both vigorously and FAIRLY, with clear rules that facilitate, rather than stifle, the ingenuity of our greatest companies. Congratulations Gail - Together, we will Make America Competitive Again!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

Maybe he hit his head or has been replaced by bizarro Andy yen. In any case I can't believe he would do this to his own company. I started to give him the benefit of the doubt until he updated his statement saying that JD Vance cares about privacy and antitrust... I was like bro okay in done.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 hours ago

Well thats a fuckin shame.

Good to know. Bye Proton.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 hours ago

Well I no longer will be recommending proton to people. Can't trust anyone this stupid with privacy.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"worked in media at Fox" the TV Cabinet expands! Yikes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

It's all just propaganda. Media people will be helpful in that endeavor.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

I use Proton mail, any recommendations for alternatives?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I'll add another rec for posteo.de, I've used it for about a year and been very happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

If encryption is a must, then use Tuta. German company, privacy focused, open source all around, no surveillance, free tier with encryption available, encrypted calendars, accessible paid subscriptions with actually useful services.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 10 hours ago (11 children)

I can deal with Andy Yen being a dumbass in his own time, but the official Proton reddit account doubling down on this shit is over the line for me.

I literally just renewed for 2 years a couple days ago. I will be looking for alternatives and hopefully I can get a partial refund or something.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Was about to pay for proton. Not now

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Just canceled my subscription and let them know in the comments it was because of this.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago

I did the same. Also mailed them asking to cancel my account and refunding me the remaing balance.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's a shame. As soon as my current VPN ran out, I was going to give them some money. I guess he should have kept his MAGA thoughts to himself.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Mentioning that Democrats are trash on dealing with corporations is just fine. Good, even.

Lying through your god damn teeth that Republicans are going to do anything other than lie to gain more leverage for their jihad to fuck over their fellow man is delusional at best.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Oh Andy, the Republicans won't think of you as "one of the good ones" and protect you from their white America policies.

[–] [email protected] 174 points 12 hours ago (11 children)

Getting real fuckin tired of having to always find 'alternatives'. Can't yall rich bastards just stop being weird and be content with making good products. Just cause you have money, doesn't mean you need to have a public opinion on anything, ever

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[–] [email protected] 199 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

And you seem to have forgotten that Trump's Attorney General William Barr tried to force backdoors in encryption.

So shut the fuck up Andy, you're out of your element.

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