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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here πŸ”πŸ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

is tuta the new pick for custom domain email?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Mailbox.org is another good one.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about "the pick" but it was mine. Six months ago I looked around and decided to stay with Tuta for now. Encrypted email + calendar, on my custom domain, is all I need though. Ymmv

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

I only need email but they seem decent and much cheaper for multiple custom domains. They were one of the options I looked at before I signed up for proton and looks like they’ve improved a lot since, too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

i wanted to move my google stuff to Proton this year as a Backup for my self hosted stuff. Shame, seems like I need to put a little more time into managing my self hosted stuff

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was looking at Tresorit as a potential cloud option. I mean, not becausw of the Andy Yen stupid tweets debacle, its because Proton's mobile app is utter garbage, can't even download an entire folder when almost every other cloud provider can.

There are also Sync.com and Icecloud but I didn't like those. Sync.com's app looks outdated af, Icecloud makes extraordinary claims like how AES is built by the NSA and therefore is somehow "insecure" so they use a different algorithm. So Tresorit seems like the only one left that does encryption by default. (Mega's predecessor was shut down before, so I don't trust them for file longevity).

Anyone else got any other suggestions for cloud storage providers?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Ive been using proton for a little more than a year now and I think that the service is one of the best out there. That, and their privacy guides in their blog are great as well. I think abandoning ship this early isn't really a need. I've abondonded things like Plex for jellyfin due to Plex starting to feel very commerical. As others have pointed out, the governing of the company may keep one individuals views from interfering with the products. With that said, if your beliefs swing opposite, i see how it can leave a bad taste and make it worth keeping an eye on the direction of the company.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

So long, and thanks for all the fish

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

using services based on the ceo's political leaning instead of actual features and policies of that service? that's dumb, tell me when that political leaning reflects in polices of proton then we can talk

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I dont know of any alternatives but I will use Zoho Mail for now with my own domain. As they are cheap and reliable. I been using them for my business and it is great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Tuta and Mailbox.org allow custom domains.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

I just wish zoho would hide my IP when I use their SMTP. I get that's how mail headers have always worked but it blows my mind that it's still standard practice to expose the IP of your mail server or home network.

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