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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here in SK right now (yes it's 4:30am), everyone's against it but no one knows the data. Once people see the data they're like "oh".

South Korea has an inherent hatred for Japan, so this isn't surprising at all.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

The Japanese did some pretty radical things during the occupation. It's interesting to see the ripple effects of these policies so far into the future.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If Americans think it's ok, how about we grab a few tankers and dump it off the California coast?

Two-faced fucks.

Edit: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abc1507

The water contains traces of other non-tritium radioactive isotopes. These do bioaccumulate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about america it's about understanding chemistry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then y'all shouldn't have a problem with it, right?

Yet, every single response has been antagonistic because nobody wants this waste dumped near them.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This water? I wouldn't be concerned with at all. I'd gladly fill a swimming pool with it and shine some UV lights on it and throw a pool party. It would be approximately as dangerous as drinking from uranium glass. I wouldn't recommend drinking large quantities of the water, much like I would recommend with all pool water, but otherwise it doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Per this source: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abc1507

The treated water contains traces of other radioactive elements that do bioaccumulate. While the water alone is below the legal food limit, that can't be considered as a fair limit due to bioaccumulation of heavier radioactive isotopes.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They filtered out the majority of the other bio-accumulating isotopes. "Trace amounts" of isotopes exist in every single element independent of nuclear power plants.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the traces in the wastewater are fairly high, falling just below legal food limits (ignoring that bioaccumulation by definition accumulates toxins from the water into animals).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Where are you reading that? I saw that the heavy metals were all filtered out and this discharge is for the Tritated Water only, with "trace" amounts of the heavy metals, meaning what you would find in normal salt water.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dumping is illegal where I live, you'll get a fine ;)

Jokes aside, does anyone with a chemistry/physics background know of a technical solution/alternative to dumping? I suspect Japan would not dump nuclear waste in their domestic waters if they could avoid it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have treated the waste water, so it isn't dumping. The water is well below the recommended parameters for releasing water.

There is nothing wrong with this. People are just freaking out because its "nuclear waste", which causes people to be irrational.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Decades and decades of fossil fuel company propaganda against nuclear is a helluva drug

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nuclear bad! Solar just around the corner! Ignore current emissions!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Solar?! Too expensive!! And it's dark for half the day everyday! We need windd!!! Let's continue to fight about stupid shit and ignore our emissions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk why the downvotes, I'm actually curious about this. Do you know how the waste is treated? I have a some education in radioactive materials and it doesn't seem like an easy problem to solve.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you have some "education about radioactive materials" you'd know that the half-life of tritium is 12.5years and that it is a beta emitter. This type of radiation isn't harmful unless ingested. You would also know that the water has been diluted to safe levels before being released in the ocean, and even after that dilution, it will also not be released all at once, further reducing the chance of re-concentration and making radiation poisoning impossible. Finally since this is tritium we are talking about it, it isn't a bio-accumlator and if you did drink too much tritated water, the treatment would be to drink an increased amount of tap water.

Since you are still just "asking questions," about how Tritrated water is "treated" it kind of sounds like you don't actually know about radioactive materials at all otherwise you would know about H3, i.e. tritium and wouldn't be concerned about "treatment" only the concentration of the released water.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago