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bro just raise the radar bro the horizon will be further away bro totally time for countermeasures bro
Just make a hovering AWACS that can hold U2 elevation. Then the gunship could hit targets across the pacific.
ZEPPELINS ARE BACK BABY
Rigid frame airship.
The term "Zeppelin" makes people nervous. They think they're made with lead.
Modern Zeppelin are semi-rigid 😛
And ribbed for her pleasure.
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At that point it would be easier for it to be an orbital (intraplanetary?) platform, pic for reference https://files.catbox.moe/cejyk6.jpg
but then we wouldn't be defeating the whining about water battleships and the horizon
Plenty of horizon in low orbit!
Y not tethered awacs weatherballon??
massively parallel synthetic aperture awacs via drone swarm
The Pagoda Mast was a good idea, but not tall enough. 40m? C'mon, with modern tech we can do 100m easy.
With the success of drones in Ukraine, I wonder if the future's just going to be midget drone-mothership subs.
I’m in for outrageous Ace Combat style drone carriers with their own point defense.
https://acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Arsenal_Bird
And conventional warhead ballistic missile subs with drone launchers:
https://acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Hrimfaxi
It’s “last second” MIRV too, so more politically correct.
The Japanese had things figured out in 2004, lol.
midget drone-mothership subs.
So is it a the mothership that's a drone, or the midget subs? The latter would make more sense.
It would be a regular sized sub that's a drone mothership, crewed entirely by midgets
Drones must be terrifying for midgets.
Maybe, but they are our last defense against nano bots.
Smart, you can fit an entire extra story inside that way. And they're less likely to mutiny if HAL decides when they surface.
The subs contain lots of drones, but the subs are unmanned, making them drones, and they're launched by a bigger mothership sub that's also a drone. All manned by midgets pretending to be AI, of course.
Carrier Has Arrived
Military planning like that is exceedingly difficult and we're almost always wrong. Like fixed fortifications, in history there's at least 6 major moves away from fixed fortifications because they became "obsolete". A few years later some new design or invention comes about and suddenly fixed fortifications are en vogue again.
In this case I think the definition of a battleship will just change like it did for dread/pre-dread ships. Eventually I think it will be twin high velocity low throw weight railguns in a all or nothing armored extremely low freeboard stealth hull.
Battleships being at the center of naval plans obviously changed. But, I think you're right that something battleshippy will probably still exist.
I mean, look how long it took for the spear to go away. With bayonets you could argue that they've never gone away. But, they're now a secondary thing, rather than the primary thing armies are designed around.
I could imagine a future where a sea-tank exists, something that can take a hit and attack with direct-fire weapons. Having said that, the war in Ukraine is showing that a multi-million dollar tank can be taken out with a few hundred dollars in drone gear. Battleships are/were closer to $1 billion, and they were already mostly obsolete when they were in danger from multi-million dollar planes, dropping thousand dollar bombs, piloted by pilots who had been trained at the cost of millions of dollars.
Get out of here with your down to earth and sensible thinking. This is Lemmy!
Design battleship to the brim with CIWS
Have a few token main guns
Park ship inside the enemy's missile range to theoretically fire guns
Spend entire hostility mulching their missiles as they focus on you
Eh if it’s big enough just use something with orbital velocity.
Orbital battleships will take it out.
With the Wave Motion Gun?
That Wii accessory? Yeah that's the one.
I think the Yamato predates the Wii.
According to "experts".
But does it go "brrrrrrrrrrt" ?
Scale it up.
KABOOM > brrrrrrrt
Plus the 16" guns can fire nuclear shells. It's like the Davy Crockett's big brother.
Imma let you finish, but a gatling gun made of 16" guns is strictly better than a regular 16" gun.
See also: This unit from Supreme Commander
What about a gattling gun using 16" guns as ammo, then?
Somebody get DARPA on this, stat.
Wouldn't you want the Explosive* payload be nuclear rather than the shell? Seems dangerous for the crew
Edited forgotten word to make it clearer
…what about a battleship with turret-catapult A10 float planes?..
Gets lasered out*
