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I can't imagine life without it, but I know there was a beforfore time.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I remember Session Restore from Firefox 2.0 times, I think. Back then people would crash the browser on purpose to have it remember the tabs.

So I guess this sort of feature is, like, ~two decades old or so.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

I had forgotten about intentionally inducing crashes. Fun times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I remember doing similar. I would intentionally kill my browser/computer without gracefully shutting down the browser. Literally everything else I would go and shut down normally, browser needed to be crashed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

For Firefox, Session Restore came in version 2 back in 2006 - Wikipedia

I'm not sure when Internet Explorer added the feature, but they removed the automatic restore in version 8 and made it manual in 2009 - Wikipedia. I feel like Internet Explorer 6 had this feature, but I can't remember now.

Not sure when/if older browsers like Netscape Navigator had this feature.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

back in 2006

My "two decades" guess wasn't too far from that, then.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine the web without cookies man. There was nothing to remember, just caching pictures and history.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've learned that it first came about as an explicit feature around 2006, I was not awake as a proper human at this point.

Regarding the privacy concerns.

Just now, my friend used her google photos AI to search for photos of me and my dead cat using my name.

I've come to accept that my information is readily available and that I am but a humble fish apart of a school surrounded by sharks, playing a numbers game for survival.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I was not awake as a proper human

I like this phrase

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I have my browser set to clear everything when it's closed. Both on mobile and on desktop. I would never have it any other way. God forbid someone hacked your PC....can you imagine of they had access to your browser that was logged into every single major account?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's definitely a potential security issue, but I don't really think it's realistically a large one. Hell, a keylogger would probably be worse for you than for me because I hardly ever actually enter passwords.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Firefox temporary tabs extension

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Then you get the dumb websites saying “we don’t recognize this device.” I can’t stand that. Especially while I’m using Passkeys to log in, like how are you this paranoid as a web developer not to realize that?

I’m a web developer myself armed with a VPN, and I’m tired of being hassled on others’ websites. Security based solely on IP address is lame.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Everything important with the exception of a single email address that probably can't do that much damage anyway is auto logged out. My bank, being only 90% fucking stupid forces a logout after 5minutrs of inactivity on their web portal.

It's be annoying to reset all my passwords, that's about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Opera 9.0 released June 20th 2006

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

the Voyager lemmy app needs this SO bad. i want to google up something before i comment and then poof the whole post is gone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That sounds more like your phone is agressively shutting apps down to save memory and energy. Some brands are known to do this more than others. You should be able to tell your phone not to close that app when on the background.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

its not the shutting apps thats the problem its the amnesia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes but mobile apps don't just lose their state when you stop looking, unless the OS closes them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That might be something with voyager, I agree with the other person that it sounds like the device itself is closing the app due to some sort of battery setting, but if it's not that then it's something at least. I've tried a handful of different lemmy clients now currently using eternity and none of them did what you were describing there.

That or operator error(less likely) such as using the back button to go back to the home screen instead of using the home button or something simple like that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i have several other apps like firefox that reopen where i left off just fine. i wonder what other people who use voyager experience?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

long shot but, if its a samsung, and you installed the app then didn't use it for awhile, it might have "deep sleep"'d it, basically deep sleeping apps can't run in the background, and it does what you are describing on a per app basis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

thanks i have iphone. The Voyager app doesnt have a background refresh option in system settings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That a Chrome thing? Feels like a Chrome thing.

We used to actually USE bookmarks, man. It was dark.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

i seem to recall around the same time they introduced tabs.. around 2007-2010 maybe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tbh I despise it, I want a fresh start every time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know you can turn it off too, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I think it’s an annoying default tho

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ironically, I prefer browsers that specifically do not do this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

They wouldn't understand....