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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's not just GTA...

That was while he was already on bail for other offenses, and apparently he's just flat out saying he's going to keep doing it and nothing will stop him...

So, it's not like there's any other options.

I worked at a day program for people with autism and other issues, and there's just some people with the right mix of symptoms and abilities, where they're capable of doing incredibly harmful things, but just literally can't understand why they shouldn't and you just can't explain it in a way they understand.

Which seems to be what's going on here. Dude just refuses to stop and he's going to do it again the second he's able.

He pulled this off while under supervision of police while in a hotel. Nothing short of him being in a controlled environment 24/7 is going to prevent it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully somebody can set up some CTF servers for him in the hospital. Taking away his 'one thing' forever seems inhumane to me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Yeah, give him a closed network with obstacles to overcome, whenever he beats the latest one, set them up again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I mean he's probably not in a secure hospital and instead off working for the government

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Has he done anything bad? Name one thing that he did that was somehow harmful to someone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He had a negative impact on the shareholders. Oh no.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Wont somebody think of the shareholders!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Leaked personal details of employees?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

not like there's any other options

other than a life sentence?!?
how about any other sentence, and then see if he changes his mind after that?

and he's not some autistic super hacker, he just asked some dumb guy for the password...

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Although he stayed at a hotel under police protection during this time, Kurtaj still managed to carry out an attack on Rockstar Games by using the room’s included Amazon Fire Stick and a “newly purchased smart phone, keyboard and mouse,” according to a separate BBC report.

Looks like they should hire him no?

5 millions loss for rockstar games, like is it even a lot for them?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They basically deemed him too autistic to be held responsible for his own actions. I am all for rehabilitation and channeling skills in good ways but you also need to trust them to act in their own interest which this guy don't seem capable of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I think I meant something like supervising him and seeing how he's exploiting breach in order to patch it. But that doesn't look as realistic now as it was in my head, who would hire him actually, you don't know what would be his next target

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Maybe someone who understands better can explain, but isn't "lifelong confinement" a bit harsh for what amounts to someone taking the loose change out of my sofa after entering without asking?

I'm aware of their status, I just think we should be past Bedlam by now.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He did this while out on bail for multiple other hacks and openly refuses to stop saying he'll do it again as soon as he's able...

But maybe 5-10 years from now he's not as obsessed with hacking and is able to be released with conditions.

The article is pretty informative

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the explanation, I kind of skimmed the article. The verge always throws pop-ups and ads everywhere when I'm on my phone so I don't really spend long whenever an article is linked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I actually use Firefox with ublock but for some reason, certain websites just kind of half-work. Fanbase wiki pages are basically one centimeter of readable space between ads.

Does the job 97% of the time though. Guess I'll have to upgrade or double up at least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

uBlock is great, just make sure to select and update filters lists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

To be fair though the article kind of sucks.

He's not being held in a hospital for life, he's being held indefinitely. Which is absolutely the correct decision considering his abilities and record of hacks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you read the article? He's saying he'll do it again as soon as he gets out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Oh no. He'll do it again you say? That justifies the possible life imprisonment! He might, idk, leak the next batch of shark card prices.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

It likely will not be life but it is an indefinite severance until doctors believe he no longer is in danger of reoffending. This is actually pretty common in many countries in cases that are deemed to be do to insanity. Sometimes when medicated they can be out in a few years. Other times they may in institutionalized for life. It is not about punishment but about trying to rehabilitate and focusing on the right treatment till they think he is safe to be back in society.

Shit title for this article.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

“He’s required to stay in the hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he’s no longer a danger.” Imagine taking the Hippocratic Oath and then getting a gig like this..

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We as a society should stop punishing people for insignificant crimes against big corpos. This sentence sounds something out of a dystopia. Really, even if there is supposedly 5 million USD in damages, are there any proof that anyone working at Rockstar games will feel the impact as a person? It is such a huge company I bet they wouldn't even feel it. Maybe there needs to be some cost cutting here and there, or maybe some people will lose some jobs? But neither warrants lifelong confinement - this is something you might get if you ruin someones life forever.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Key word is "victimless crime" which is an oxymoron. Companies are not people and can't be victims.

"Victimless crimes" are not crimes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This isn't really punishment, this is more of a medical intervention

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Between this and Nintendo basically enslaving that one guy by garnishing his wages for the rest of his life, game companies are getting way too comfortable using the law like a cudgel, just because they can. No fucking video game content being leaked justifies a game-shitter-outer to be able to do this. Guess I'll be boycotting.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

what are sentencing guidelines for child molestors?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

However, since Kurtaj has autism and was deemed unfit to stand trial, the jury was asked to determine whether he committed the acts in question, not whether he did so with criminal intent.

If you can't get a conviction based on what happened, simply ignore what happened

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yea throw away all that talent because he aint obedient enough

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Like his character is locked in a hospital in the game, right? Right??

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

As I've learned through life experience, there is no sin society will punish disproportionally harder than not conforming. Doesn't matter how well I behave or how many rules I break, none of it ever matters. Everything's always fine up until I make it clear other people can't control me.

The world is run by fascists who get off on having power over others, and punish severely those who resist that oppression.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol wut. Honestly some societies are worse than others, but me, I don't imagine anyone would seriously punish someone simply for wanting to do their own thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Because you are 'free'. Stick to values that don't hurt anyone and watch how often it becomes a problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Blaming autism for a lack of regard for big corporations... Because corporations are always rational, reasonable, lawful actors. They're also, of course, basically people.

This is fucked up.