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Summary

Candace Owens, a U.S. conservative commentator, has been denied a visa to enter New Zealand for a speaking tour after being banned from Australia.

Australian officials barred her in October, citing her Holocaust denial remarks and potential to incite discord, following calls from Jewish groups.

New Zealand immigration laws prohibit entry to individuals banned from other countries.

Owens, known for controversial statements on topics like Black Lives Matter and vaccines, had planned to discuss free speech and Christianity at events in both countries. Tickets for her tour remain on sale.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's nice that some countries are willing to institute consequences for fascist influencers. I'm eager to see how the social media ban affects things down the line for Australian young people, too.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's illegal in many countries to falsify historic facts.
USA is not a "golden" standard in that regard, but more like a low end developing country with no real rules.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t know that the relatively anodyne descriptor “conservative commentator” and simply “visa” are strong enough to provide an accurate portrayal of the situation. (The article goes more into it; I’m referring to the lede.) She wasn’t going scuba diving and visiting the Sydney Opera House on a tourist visa. She was applying for a work visa and she’s apparently frequently crossed the line into holocaust denial. A lot of countries wouldn’t grant that visa.

I don’t really know much about her — I just read bits of her Wikipedia article — but to me, this sounds more like denying Alex Jones a work visa than something like banning a random “conservative commentator” like Megyn Kelly from visiting Aukland on holiday.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think your summary is accurate.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago

Good move by New Zealand.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Or: Klandace Owens learns about using strong borders to keep undesirables out.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

her Holocaust denial remarks

That tracks, because she's been going on about flat earth crap lately, and the Ven diagram of racist and flat earthers have a large overlap.

Actually the flat earther diagram is almost completely enveloped by the racist circle, specifically the "Nazi" variety of horrible people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

No one should let that trash in to their country

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

What an unfortunate thing to happen on free dozen eggs night

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Genuine question, so if I can't enter China for... reasons..., does that mean the Kiwis won't let me vacation in the Shire?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends what those reasons are. Conspicuously bad-mouthing the Chinese government in a way that can be traced back to your real world identity might get you banned from China, but nowhere else, for example.

If it's something to do with drugs, illegal shipping of goods, a criminal record or visa shenanigans, any country would reserve their right to send you packing. That doesn't mean that would happen, but it might be in your interests to contact your country's New Zealand embassy, (or one of their consulates if there's one nearer to you), be really, really pleasant with whoever you talk to, and put your question to them, and ask if you can get their response in writing... and then stay the heck out of trouble until you try to go there.

It could save you a couple of long, unnecessary journeys and a heap of expense.

None of this guarantees you still won't be sent home even if the embassy gives you the all-clear in writing, by the way. But if you get a firm "no" from the embassy, you'll know not to go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the reply! No, I wasn't thinking about any "real" criminal activity. I'm from Germany and thus I'm very outspoken against the systematic murder of minorities. I may have peacefully protested at times and always wonder if China has my face stored somewhere on a server ready to barr me from access to their country, should I ever want to visit, which is unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

We’re having fuck-candice-owens parties here in NZ.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh I didn't think she had that much power and influence, I guess I was wrong

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