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Summary

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.

The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.

Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.

Hamas also criticized the decision.

The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

It's about fucking time! This should've happened much earlier.

Anf of course Netanyahu is hiding behind the discrimination card.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

With Netanyahu calling them antisemetic

Why do they always call justified responses antisemetic? Like I swear, due to this, I have heard a resurgence of people believing that "Hitler was right in his actions" and "he was trying to save us", even though that's clearly a stupid take but I digress.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

God they really just play the antisemitism card for everything

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I remember when the people who said 'if you call everything Nazism, then what are you going to do when the real Nazis arrive' ended up being Nazis themselves... who did not shy away from calling their opposition fascist and Nazis even when they were wearing Swastikas on them.

Zionists are the same. The exact same. They are remarkably antisemitic (look up the founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl. The guy was a RAGING antisemite!) but at the same time throw that accusation left and right at anything that even remotely disapproves of their actions.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

It's the only card they have

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He should be arrested and given a quick trial and hanged.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Imprisonment for live is the highest possible sentence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't Sadam Houssein sentenced to death?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

That wasn't the ICC, it was the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, set up by the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ICC:
"We acknowledge that Hamas' attacks against civilians are crimes too."

Netanyahu and Hamas in unison:
"What do you mean, 'crimes too'?"

Meanwhile, the slaughter goes on because nobody wants to risk open conflict with the US and they* have a raging hard-on for genocidal imperialism.

*Not all of them, of course, but enough are either complicit or at least complacent that it remains a tenable political position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Its the one silver lining about trump--he'll destroy US economic, military and political power and in doing that remove the zionists shield from consequences.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's funny how the criminal immediatelly implied that it's a Jewish characteristic to be a criminal like him, just like he and his minions (which includes the American Administration) have been continuously implying that commiting all manner of horrid crimes, from theft and rape all the way to Genocide and purposeful child mass murder, is a Jewish chacteristic.

Like the last bunch of Nazis, these people aren't merelly immoral, they're so depraved, disgusting and devoid of even the most basic humanity that they'll slander millions of those they claim to defend in order to avoid the consequences of acting like the most extreme and out of control psychopath (far beyond mere Serial Murderer and well into Hitler-level).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Israel's actions is Palestine make Jews everywhere less safe.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't it a little anti-semetic to hold the guilty responsible for crimes the whole world knows they did? /s

Just predicting the media spin that's all

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It’s quite frankly just like Nazi germany (when they held the Nazis accountable for their war crimes and genocide).

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Finally the only sensible response to what is happening in Israel.

Arrest the leaders on both sides!

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I heard that Bibi stubbed his toe on an antisemetic table this morning.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Cue "ICC is antisemitic", just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.

Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago

The original Nazis would always claim that they represented the Arian Race and that any criticism of them was "against the Arian Race" and the Zionists, a Neue Nazi group, do the same only using a different ethnicity.

This is far from the only way in which these Neue Nazis are the same as the original Nazis.

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[–] [email protected] 176 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.

Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.

However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a "reverse confirmation" of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it's actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a Jew, I'm becoming desensitized to the word "antisemitic." Even my Israeli cousins overuse the word and can't explain to me how this kind of shit is antisemitism beyond "Hamas wants to kill us."

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (6 children)

the Palestinians did not get to choose the ethnicity of their oppressors.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago

"You can't cry wolf and BE the wolves. Do you not understand what the villagers do to wolves?"

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.

The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 days ago (1 children)

''How are you today?'' ''That's an antisemitic question.''

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Anyone putting netanyahu and hamas in the same category, gets it.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The US and others were fine with it when they issued a warrant for Putin, I'm sure they'll be on board for this as well, right?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This makes us look weak and hypocritical to the rest of the world. Stop the unjust war of aggression and annexation! No wait, I meant the other one. This one is a-OK.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

This is part of the collapse of American soft power around the world.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

He's really fucking up the antisemitic thing for the rest of us. The wolf crier isn't a monolith and he's diluting an important communication tool.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Do they think nobody is going to replace them and resume the conflict?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Then why would we persecute anyone? Maybe give that take one more round of thought.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago

Not everyone we persecute is in a leadership position with high amounts of pressure from the population to do the things we're punishing them for.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Those warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on, but it's still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago

Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Kudos to the ICC and make sure they are cell mates. Damn shame it will not happen.

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