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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm honestly terrified as a naturalized citizen that he's going to either try to revoke my citizenship or ignore it altogether :/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Birthright citizenship is on the chopping block

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

If they're allowed to carry out their plans in full, will there even BE any path to citizenship?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

How willing to work the fields are you? Not? Then you are deported!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m doing my part!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

"Why didn't literally everyone tell me that the racist genocidal maniac was a racist genocidal maniac?"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

INCLUDING the racist, genocidal maniac?!?1?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Narrator: "It won't be."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and FaceBook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?

Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.

This already fucking happened. All of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Everyone here who stayed past their visa or crossed the border illegally is a criminal to the Republicans regardless of any attempts at asylum or other legal avenues to stay. (Yes, they have done something illegal, no need to be a pedant)

Especially if they're brown.

If they're white and have some money, they'll be fine.

If they're brown and working for a Republican illegally, they'll just get paid less and worked harder while being threatened with deportation if they complain.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Stephen “nazi” Miller wants to create an army from Trump loyal national guard members and go into “blue” states to enforce deportation.

I doubt they’ll check if you’re a criminal or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

Or indeed if you're an immigrant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Thinking that undocumented (inherently illegals) will be spared to continue providing cheap labour, ignores the impending AI revolution impact. Millions of jobs will be lost. The menial jobs currently being done by undocumented labour, will soon be done by legal citizens who have lost their jobs to AI. The Ministry of DOGE coin apparatus will soon be in place to implement this at national scale. The leopards are going to eat the faces of 99% of us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is what I believe. Those that can’t find work or are replaced by AI get to work the fields or they are a drain on society and jailed, camped, deported, or just executed. You might get a chance to serve the military too - maybe even demanded!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Its only for the federal definition of criminal. That definition is extremely broad on a good day. Bad days are just gonna get broader

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

“If you’re here illegally, you better be looking over your shoulder.”

They've also mentioned along the lines of "if you are here illegally, then you've already committed a crime".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

The fun part is, it's not actually a crime. That's why they use immigration judges and not criminal ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

"If you've downloaded a car, then you've already committed a crime."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Trump is going on a mission to skim all alleys for those that are eating pets.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago (8 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump.

Are white people exempt from that or why did you choose that wording?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I chose that wording because Trump is a massive racist and yet all these minority groups he's openly shit on still voted for him and they can get fucked.

Because yeah Mr. "Build the wall" is totally gonna have your back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Oh and everybody fucking clapped. Get over yourself because while you do whatever the fuck this is, real ones are out there building solidarity and dual power. Snap out of your neoliberal yesteryear and into the reality that what matters now is a.) channels/orgs for mutual aid b) Solidarity Economies (aka folks having a foothold in their local economies and c) Encouraging anti-authoritarian parenting methods.

We are in this mess because we want that EZ fix. Just vote against (obtuse, christo-)fascism so you can go back to bed for 4-8 years (while magrinalized folks get to suffer) -- Instead of looking at the big picture.

You know who looked at the big picture and built (astroturfed anyway) grassroots? All these right wing ghouls.

Im not gonna rewrite this for every clown at the top of every thread playing the blame game.

Get involved. Engage prefigurative politics. Identify the root causes and move on to the solutions.

Or keep yelling at scarecrows you imagine. Just dont be surprised if that turns you into someone people dont want to be around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Can you just rewrite it for us here now because it doesn't make any fucking sense? I dont agree with the guy you're replying to, but I can't understand wtf you're trying to say. It reads like it was written by a stroke victim.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Solidarity? Really? Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else? Zero fuckin sympathy for the people that voted for the man who openly said he was gonna make their lives harder. The man who openly said he's gonna deport as many people as he can. The man who's openly been a steaming pile of shit since his first fuckin presidential run.

They voted to fuck themselves over and I'm supposed to help them? Lay in the bed of shit you made and fuck right the fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else?

Im not being condescending here:

In every city.

It even happens to exist outside of cities!

You can find mutual aid groups wherever you are. If you're asking, you need to engage beyond the bare-minimum of electoralism.

Here's a short vid from like past 48? hours about finding yours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcZjj0NGIaY

Now go re-read and find me where I'm telling you to go cozy up to a maga-hat of any life-experience at all, and strike up solidarity with them.

No. Quit with the doom obsession. It is a distraction so as to avoid doing something more meaningful about the root causes.

To quote a friend: (speaking on such quislings)

many people will unfortunately need to learn this the hard way it seems at the expense of those who take the time to see the writing on the wall those ignorant to their exploitation will seldom listen to those who try to tell them how horribly theyre being fucked "if it were really so bad id notice" theyll say "this isnt so bad" theyll say, standing on the peak of the mountain that is dunning-kruger unknowing all we can do is wait, and watch to find out what what it is that throws them into the valley of unfathomable uncertainty in the meantime we must work for each other, for those who do see how good things could be. maybe then, our greener grass will coax them into giving us a fair listen

So, I repeat: Quit with this dopamine loop. You feel so strongly? Then go be about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Since you are so much against voting I have good news for you: You wont have to ever vote again now! There wont be free elections in america again after all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

Ooh ooh i have something for this!

Right so, certainly a topic worth caring about. "So much against voting" is a simplifcation. Kinda gross one, one could even say

https://crimethinc.com/2016/04/29/feature-from-democracy-to-freedom

But you dont have all that time for giving a fuck about the way representive modern neoliberal democracies fall short, so let's leave it at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7KUhBxpD14

If you spend the next 2 or 4 years building the expectation that their wont be an election, you are doing their work for them

So, whats yr deal? Are you here manufacturing consent on bebalf of fascists, or are you going to build Muatalism style in your physical proximity. Riding the fence doesnt make sense. ✨️

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