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Since I discovered the existence of global menu on Plasma, I've been searching for a version of Firefox that supports it. While I've found patches for it, I don't know if it still works and have the patience to compile it.

Kudos if it's in the AUR pre-compiled.

If you don't know what global menu is it just moves the toolbar to any panel you want like in the attachment.

EDIT: Compiled firefox-globalmenu from the AUR, turns out it doesn't work with wayland :(

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

@gnawmon
install firefox-kde ( i guess its it) it is firefox with global menu patch, also there is firedragon from garuda linux

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The firefox fork for Garuda Linux afaik has global menu support. Check out Fire dragon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Tried it both on wayland and x11, didn't work sadly

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I think openSuse maintains a fork with patched global menu?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What's the appeal of the global menu?

I find it annoying as it's far away from the window and you have to focus on the window before you can interact with the apps menu. Worst of all, it's hard to tell which window /instance the current menu belongs to!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

i just like it this way, like how people like oranges or the color blue

also it's nice to have options, that's what makes linux distros great

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I find it very convenient. It's always in the same place for every app that supports it. I've been testing Ladybird and it supports the global menu on Plasma. Something to keep an eye on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's for people who like the Malus aesthetic, regardless whether it's ergonomic or not. If Malus does it, every competitor just has to in order to be able to say "we can do that too".

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but are there other companies who make mice with charger port on the bottom?

Lol "malus" got me really confused

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

This is something I’ve wanted for a very long time! It’s such a shame that this thread is full of people discussing whether or not a global menu is even a good thing. On Debian I have literally not been able to find a single browser that respects the global menu. I’m going to try everything in this thread, and hope something finally works!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@gnawmon I gave up using global menu on any linux desktop environment long time ago. Sadly, many apps don’t handle it, and it’s not the same experience like in macOs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What do you like about it in macOS? I have never used it, so it's hard for me to understand the appeal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

In macOS it makes it very clear which application you’re in (if you momentarily forget), and you can get to menu items quickly (if you’re not already using the consistent key commands already) especially when using a Magic Trackpad (just swipe down fast and you’re there).

Whenever I have to deal with looking at Windows, application windows look super clunky and it’s definitely not helped by windows duplicating inconsistent menus everywhere.

Have you seen Safari on macOS? Other browsers have to settle for hiding everything under a hamburger menu or gear icon, making the inconsistent non-native UI problem more apparent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

@mearce You are used to windows being either Maximized or Fullscreen, and these two states being very different things, and changing from one to the other being an hassle, especially exiting from Fullscreen requires touching the keyboard (ESC or f11), or a special button in the interface, hoping the developer made it recognisable. In reality, they are the same thing, with the only difference that Fullscreen hides the menus. If you have the global menu attached to a menu that avoids maximized windows you have unified Fullscreen and Maximized. If on the same panel you also put a widget tonexit from maximized, you also have a universal way to exist from Fullscreen: just take the cursor to the top of the screen and reveal the panel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

@mearce There's only one thing I like in it: it saves space. Usually, you have a plenty of free space in panels. You can use a bit of this space for a global menu.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My quick look at it:

  • Plasma crash
  • Autohide does not work with it because as soon as you move your mouse over a different menu point it closes again. Not seeing a point in having that thing constantly on screen.

Hard pass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t see what you mean as it works perfectly stable for me.