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As the 2024 presidential election approaches, climate change has emerged as a defining issue. During his 2020 campaign, President Joe Biden called climate change the "number one issue facing humanity" and pledged to put the U.S. on a path to net-zero emissions by 2050. However, emissions actually rose during the first two years of Biden's presidency, putting the U.S. off track to meet its climate goals. Vice President Kamala Harris's stance on climate issues has come under scrutiny as she readies a potential presidential run. As California's attorney general, Harris pursued some high-profile environmental prosecutions, but her record has been criticized by activists who say she focused on small violators while letting major polluters off the hook. Since becoming vice president, Harris has continued to champion climate action, though she has also shifted away from some of her more progressive positions, like a ban on fracking. The political realities of the 2024 election loom large, as Harris may need to appeal to swing state voters in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan, major fossil fuel and manufacturing hubs. This dynamic reflects a broader trend within the Democratic Party, as the prospect of passing sweeping climate legislation has become more remote. The ultimate shape of the 2024 electoral map may determine whether addressing climate change remains a top priority for Democrats going forward.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Except Harris actually wants to expand what is already the largest federal push to replace fossil fuels, and Trump wants to stop those programs.

One is better than the other.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the largest federal push to replace fossil fuels, and Trump wants to stop those programs.

trump wants to stop them cuz Biden did it ..

The fossil fuel companies want trump to keep it because it's making them so much money while they've set recording breaking production the last two years...

Republicans and moderates have lowered the bar so much since Jimmy Carter, that you can't even remember what a Dem candidate is supposed to look like

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

trump wants to stop them cuz Biden did it …

Generally speaking, this is exactly on point. If the GOP guy wins, he'll stop the program that Biden launched.

Then he'll work with the big rich companies to create a new program that has his name on it, that's even bigger and worse.

The fossil fuel companies want trump to keep it because it’s making them so much money while they’ve set recording breaking production the last two years…

Wait, so the fossil fuel companies want to keep Biden's push to replace fossil fuels? Because it's been making them money?

Actually, that's good. If even the fossil fuel companies want them replaced...

Republicans and moderates have lowered the bar so much since Jimmy Carter, that you can’t even remember what a Dem candidate is supposed to look like

My answer: AOC

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean the one that now says she supports fracking? The one helping contribute via proxy war hundreds of thousands of tons of carbon into the atmosphere?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, that one who has allowed her views to evolve and showing a willingness to compromise to show she'll support the wishes of everyone in the US.

Of the two, who has better odds on (for example) being convinced to return to a ban on fracking? The one who previously sought to ban it, or the one who racistly said that climate change was a hoax from a particular country half way around the world?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fossil fuel corporations have asked trump to leave Biden's "signature climate legislation" if trump wins, because it's making them so much money...

And Harris is explicitly pro-fracking, has been since she cast the vote that prevented it from being banned.

What's the point of winning if we don't fix stuff after we do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I optimistically have hope that things will get fixed, once Dems are able to drop the filibuster so new legislation at the federal level is possible again.

Though that depends on Dems retaining the Senate in this election, or taking it back in 2026.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Climate change if a defining issue in this election? What? Since when?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The climate is already lost. It's pretty much a non-issue. It's just a matter of who can keep us from dying the fastest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

How we act now will determine how hard the landing is.