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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

By the power invested in me by, well, nobody whatsoever, can I just take a minute to say, let's all cool down a little in the comments!

There's a lot of arguing against:

  • The idea that acknowledging the tragic reality of climate change makes you defeatist
  • The idea that because we have had some great advantages in green tech we can sit back and let climate change fix itself

I don't see anyone making those arguments here though! Just lots of people concerned about climate change with different skews of how positive/negative we should feel.

Personally, I swing between powerful optimism and waking in terror at 3:00am for the future we're hurtling towards. I'm sure other people are the same, so let's just be friendly to the fact that other people are in different vibes to us.

There are some people working together very well right now to dismantle the climate, so let's all remember that when we're talking with each other.

Peace and love!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why perchance has the interest in a self-sustaining life skyrocketed you think? Could it be because people can barely afford food anymore?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Not just that, it’s a combination of factors. Sustainable thinking, independence, a connection to the world and self and much more.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Solar isn't scalable, clean, or sustainable. The only real option is nuclear. Most of the benefits to solar come from countries involved in multiple genocides, territorial expansion, and diplomatic saber-rattling. It's a neat toy for youtubers, but it's no real solution.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Acknowledging reality is not the same thing as defeatism or "not doing anything." I'd argue that putting your head in the sand and ignoring news/information you don't like is more damaging and closely related to the majority of the world's efforts over the past 50+ years.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Thinking everything is fine leads to apathy. Thinking there's nothing we can do leads to apathy. The correct thought is that it's bad, but we can fix it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Today I was citing The Materialist Conception of History by Plekhanov and noticed that it had a huge spike in downloads this year. Gave me a spark of hope

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

To be fair, as much as we should highlight the good news.
I wouldnt say It is defeatism to say there is a hell of a lot more bad stuff going, we should highlight the good stuff while recognizing we have a ways to go.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It certainly hasn't defeated MY adoption expectations, and don't even talk to me about stock share prices for anything involving solar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate stocks, but I hope yours go to the moon!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Indoor farming is really exclusive for just a few produce tbh. Majority of vegie/fruits can't be realistically indoor farmed.

At least i got my lettuce.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't forget the huge investments by cities to build public and active transit. My city has invested over $1B into rail expansion projects and $500M into BRT. They're currently tearing up half of downtown to widen sidewalks along with building bike lanes and bus lines. Things are changing more quickly than they seem. My city also advocated for a state law that was passed to fund passenger rail between 2 large nearby cities

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So what is this indoor farming for cities?

I remember those boxes to grow salad in, vertically stacked, interesting concept because no need for toxic stuff and almost no water, and it's right there so no need for shipping.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

You still need fertilizer and electricity that is less efficient than sunlight to grow indoors.

But somebody once gave terrible math about being able to feed a city from a vertical skyscraper farm and it's been latched onto very hard as a futurism solution.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One day I will die, and sooner than I wish. Maybe some effects of climate change will do me in. At least nobody can say I haven't done what I could to stop it. It's what I do for a living.

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