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Valve needs to step up on Anti-Cheat (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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So yeah, I want to discuss or point out why I think Valve needs to fix Anti-Cheat issues. They have VAC but apparently its doing jackshit, be it Counter Strike 2 (any previous iterations) or something like Hunt: Showdown the prevalence of cheating players is non deniable. For me personally it has come to a point that I am not enjoying playing those games anymore, although they are great games by itself. But the amount of occurrences being killed or playing against cheaters is at a height, where I don't see the point anymore.

Why I think Valve is the only company able to something against cheaters?

Because they have the tools with VAC already aiming to prevent cheaters. Valve has got the resources to actually invest into something more profound which could be used for any game where anti-cheat protection needs to be implemented. And lastly Valve is the company which is interested in furthering the ability to gaming on Linux, the anti-cheat solution needs to work on both operating systems. Only Valve has the motivation and means to achieve that with their knowledge and resources. What do you guys think about the topic? Is the fight against cheaters hopeless? Do you think some other entity should provide anti-cheat protection, why? I skimmed over "anti cheat in linux kernel" posts in the net, but I have very little knowledge about the topic, what is your stance on it?

Edited: Mixed EAC with VAC. EAC seems to be part of Epic Company. Both of these tools seem unable to prevent cheating like mentioned above.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There is no problem involving valve games that can't be solved by not playing valve games. Seriously, I quit a long time ago and my mental health has soared from not being around those borderline neo-nazi gamers all the time. Fuck valve for harboring fascists within their platform.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only Valve has the motivation and means...

I think they have the means but not the motivation. I can think of only 2 reasons why the state of anti-cheat is the way it is:

They don't want to spend money to fix it
They don't want to ban paying customers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I doubt that, I mean show me a proper working anti cheat which isn't deeply rooted into the system as this Valorant bullshit? Don't even know how good that one is actually working. I just think there should be more focus from players and general attention that cheaters are bad for sales, because people don't want to spend money on games where cheaters are free to prevail.

I also think with CS2 Valve has a big motivating factor to make this classic one which is cheater free. Also why aren't third party games able to use VAC?

I really like the community driven moderation of playerbase is a good suggestion. For games like Hunt: Showdown and any other game with just lobbies, its not working though.

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