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Bit of a simple question: Some people on lemmy are still posting stuff from youtube, xitter and the like.

Have you gone full fediverse yet or how far are you?

  1. traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
  2. xitter for mastodon
  3. discord for matrix
  4. youtube for peertube

Obviously I also mean other alternatives. Which ones do you use and why?

Disclaimer: this question is me asking genuinely but also trying to make it fun by arbitrary ranking/escalating it. Not trying to say one is better than the others.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Still using Discord and YouTube fully and reading some things on Reddit and Twitter. Not posting ob the latter two anymore though.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Basically everything except discord. I don't use Twitter or anything like that so mastodon isn't my thing

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most of them! I'm struggling to understand peertube but maybe I'll get it eventually. In the meantime I'm still on YouTube but I've fediversed all the others πŸŽ‰

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thats awesome! Peertube is an odd one but has character. The biggest issue imo is that you cant sort on sepiasearch.org with likes, views and comments.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

PS - If someone wants to get into watching PeerTube, TILVids.com is a great start.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I realize I'm a bit strange when it comes to social media, but have never signed up for twitter, discord, youtube, facebook, instagram, or anything else like that. I had a reddit account, but bailed as soon as I heard about kbin. So yeah, I gues that makes me a full fedi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I suppose it does. Congrats to not giving in to megacorp stuff. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

to be fair, kinda helps that I was an adult and not in the US before most of those services even became a thing ;)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • mostly post on Lemmy now. So check reddit occasionally as there are a few things there I have need/interest in. I rarely post there now. It's mostly because of their utterly unusable official app - if they allowed third party apps (and my choice of third party app) I'd have been willing to pay to use (I'm not looking for a free ride).
  • I'm split between Mastodon, BlueSky, Threads and occasional Twitter. There are people I still interact with on each. I am not a fan of Meta, but unfortunately they seem to be winning. Mastodon is very, very clunky though it has good points. I am seeing an increasing number of big name posters expressing frustration with the platform as there is no good mechanism to ward off spam and abuse at scale - this makes sense (though I certainly am not such a person).
  • What's Matrix? I use Discord only because I have to as it's the only place for support/community for certain tools I use. I hate it. I wish orgs would use old school web page support forae like they used to. Vastly better...
  • YT premium. Gotta follow the content. I don't mind paying to rid myself of ad interruption, and what's more, it makes it functional for my kids (sans ads). Besides, YouTube Music is pretty good (not nearly as good as Google Play Music was, though).

I think as things scale people may start to appreciate just how hard it is to moderate content to a useful degree. Not too much. Not too little. (I'm not suggesting that any of the main sites has really gotten it right, but when it's gone (at scale) things go bad fast (RIP Twitter).

I hope for better interoperability between platform (fedi) but it's likely a pipe dream.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I'm slowly migrating to Lemmy/Kbin.

The mods of Reddit are just power abusing shitheads. The same communities will eventually come to the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Shit, man, if I went full fedi, I'd have even less to contribute than I already do. We've gotta have some external sources of news and knowledge.

I have traded reddit for lemmy and just closed my Meta and Xitter accounts and I'm already feeling a disconnect from society. I've been subscribing to new youtube channels and setting up RSS feeds to make up for the lack of connection to current events.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Damn. Relatable though.

Remember that you can bridge matrix with discord, whatsapp, telegram, signal and others to unify your communication on IM/Chat

Otherwise, you could try mastodon. Its cool if you liked old twitter. I do kinda but lemmy is more my cup of tea. Also, feel free to contribute. We need people who bring relevant news to non corpo land.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, thank you. I saw you mention bridging matrix to other services in another comment. I'm definitely intrigued and will investigate that. As for Mastodon, I've been wanting to find the time to spin up my own server for that one. I'll definitely be getting deeper into the fediverse, but I also need outside sources of news, preferably not curated by antagonistic algorithms like Facebook.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've migrated to almost all foss services. I'm only sharing from non free services if i can't avoid. I'm using this username in each and every services

1,2,3 yes
Its hard to avoid youtube as most of my favourite youtubers wont migrate or even they don't know about foss platforms. They want their ad revenue. Its hard to convience them and hard for them to move

My Fediverse accounts:
Mastodon not Twitter Lemmy not Reddit Friendica not Facebook Peertube not Youtube: Funkwhale not spotify: Bookwyrm not Goodreads Writefreely not blogger:
Lichess not chess.com: Matrix not discord: https://matrix.to/#/@covert_czar:matrix.org
I'm also on pixelfed (not instagram)

Sure i do use proprietory softwares and nonfree services. I do consider them as useful as foss softwares. I just explored most of the fedi universe doesn't mean i hate non-free services.
I'm more active on mastodon, pixelfed, lemmy, matrix and lichess

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/4205915 And finally A meme i made about fediverseπŸ˜‚ Edit: deleted all personal links

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Instead of going fedi I'm going minimal.

Reddit -> Lemmy, with the caveat that time spent on here is minimal, to be reviewed at a later date.

xitter -> nothing, nitter.net if I want to read a xeet linked by another resource. Ultimately for me micro blogging social media is a time suck with little return.

discord -> still on it for a few different reasons, not sure if I'll set up matrix just to do a bridge, privacy and minimalism are clashing here.

YouTube -> nothing, invidious if I want to watch yt content. Short or low quality video content is another time suck, try and keep video streaming to a minimum for environmental and mental health reasons.

Netflix and others -> the high seas (it is decentralised)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. I'll follow a search result to reddit, but I don't actively browse it.
  2. Never used either. I created a Mastodon account somewhere once upon a time but never used it.
  3. My friends use Discord, and aren't interested in moving. So I use it.
  4. I don't post or comment on YouTube, but I do follow a handful of people. Not signed in, just using rss feeds.
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

1: I'm running a kbin instance so. Yeah, think I've covered that.
2: Never had a twitter account. I used to check news from some companies that announce stuff there. But you can't even do that without an account now, so I don't visit them aside from if people send me direct links to stuff.
3: Yes and no. I'm using both, mainly because I don't control where everyone else goes.
4: I did (well still do) have a peertube instance up, I've just not moved it to the new server yet and not decided if I will. The problem is, storage. For threadiverse (kbin in my case) the space used is easily containable, the media goes onto S3 and I can surf the best combination of speed/price for that and the DB actually grows at a pretty controllable rate. But peertube takes a LOT of space quickly. I suspect it's a bit harder to have the kind of freedom to post long videos, also livestreaming. I tried 1440p and the server (which is decently specced) couldn't keep up. So, this might be a failed experiment for me I think.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

1 - 3.

I’m still on YouTube.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes for all except youtube. I use frontends there. LBRY when feasible and there's not a lot of content creators on PeerTube at least we got "The Linux Experiment". PeerTube needs a monetization model imo (benefiting content creators and instance hosters). I wouldn't mind paying a low fee for watching content for instance.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. I already had issues with Reddit long before the API drama, due to spam, etc. However when the API drama dropped, I almost 100% switched to kbin, save for the rare occasion I found some useful info on Reddit, with the occasional tumbling into some other interesting threads.
  2. I post more often to Mastodon, slowly leaving Twitter too, I just need to convince my fellow authors to do so, to give me even less reason to use it. I however decided to limit posting updates of my game engine to Twitter, and instead use the main account now dedicated for it ( @PixelPerfectEngine )
  3. I haven't heard of Matrix, I'll look up it. I don't have any major gripes with Discord so far.
  4. Peertube is fine and dandy, however it's even less adapted than other Fediverse platforms, all while YouTube would be mostly fine IF IT DIDN'T ACTIVELY TRIED TO SABOTAGE MY FIREFOX! I EVEN PAY FOR PREMIUM AND MEMBERSHIPS!

I don't really use any other save for following a bunch of Misskey accounts with my Mastodon. However, I was thinking on creating a federated game launcher/gaming-focused social network similar to Steam. Some parts of it would use ActivityPub (especially public stuff like achievements), others XMPP or something similar. Issues are the question of a copy protection system, and an anti-cheat system. Banning pirated copies of the game from official networks is probably easy even with open source tools, and likely not so controversial. Anything more than that would require more complicated setups, such as a lot of proprietary stuff, not to mention are very controversial, especially with gamers. Anti-cheat systems are also a though issue, likely being the responsibility of the developer, and also there' a lot of controversy with them with kernel-level anti-cheat systems.

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